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VMware 3D performance

According to ryder0707 3D performance in VMware should be more then usable.
I'm looking for comparison performance benchmarks preferably using some standard benchmark tool (3DMark, some game that includes benchmark run), both on the bare metal and in VMware.
Please post your hardware configuration and VMware version.
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za_mkhCommented:
Best 3D graphics experience will be with the newer flavours of VMWare Software 
ie. VMWare Workstation 7 and VMWare Player 3
http://www.vmware.com/products/workstation/new.html
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Let_Me_BeAuthor Commented:
> Best 3D graphics experience will be with the newer flavours of VMWare Software

I'm looking for performance comparison benchmarks!
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za_mkhCommented:
BTW, I don't think you going to get great 3-D Graphics for games from a Virtual Machine ...
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za_mkhCommented:
I can't be bothered to try to google it ... but from all my reading, I can say  that 3-D performance is only starting on it's long road to match a physical PC. Nothing virtual matches up to spec of a dedicated graphics card. Maybe in another 1-2 years.
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ryder0707Commented:
Yo Let_Me_Be, its me again :)
OK to accept your challenge I think the best setup would be the following:

1. PC/Laptop with lowest CPU performance, in this case I'll choose Intel Atom
Why? To prevent bias if the CPU is fast and you might think this is some kind of soft 3D virtualization in a VM, so in other words no 6v11sh1+! We are here to test 3D performance in VM not CPU performance.

2. 3D GPU ofcoz to match with the slow cpu of Intel Atom. For this I have Nvidia ION.

3. A not too old 3D benchmarking software from MadOninon, 3DMark 2001. Still popular for normal 3D benchmarking. Why not the latest? Come on! I'm using Intel Atom CPU and nVidia Ion is not for the ultimate gaming machine.

4. As for the virtualization platform, vmware workstation 7. The latest virtualization for desktop from vmware. I've installed it on Windows 7. This is the default OS that comes with the netbook pc. By the way the model is HP Mini 311-TU(Intel Atom N280 CPU, nVidia ION GPU, 2GB DDR3 SDRAM, 250GB 5400RPM disk drive).

Youtube now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCP5xFgGl2M and decide if 3D gaming sucks or can be considered in a VM.

Enjoy!

p/s : Sorry bout the video quality, original was nice but ended sucky to match youtube rules & limit :(
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za_mkhCommented:
This is too funny now ... but great demo Ryder0707!
My 3D / Flash (bbc iplayer) performance in Workstation 7 VM (vmware tool, etc all configured!)  is shite on my dual core laptop.
But on the physical laptop it is fine ... so what gives? Is the Intel Series 4 Express Graphics chipset shite??
 
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ryder0707Commented:
Hehehe yeah i think its funny too... :)
Anyway I'm quite impressed with the 3D performance, not sure for other people...just imagine if better cpu & gpu
Can you give me link the to test the 3D flash? What kind gpu do you have?
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Let_Me_BeAuthor Commented:
If I overlook that fact that the combination of the benchmark software (3D Mark 2001) and the hardware is so specific, that it has absolutely no real value, you still didn't provide any comparison. It's nice to know that VMware on your notebook can reach over 3400 points, but how many points can the bare metal reach?
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ryder0707Commented:
what you mean specific, its the slowest cpu and probably the slowest gpu compared to other desktop gpu
i'm totally fine if you want to sponsor hardware for me to do the benchmark :)
the host itself can get close to 6k points, so about 60%-70% of the host performance
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Let_Me_BeAuthor Commented:
> what you mean specific, its the slowest cpu and probably the slowest gpu compared to other desktop gpu

Its definitely not the slowest CPU, but the GPU has no dedicated memory, which can skew the results a lot.
Plus the Intel Atom does not support HW virtualization, so the results are once again skewed.

Having a slow CPU does not guarantee the results to be only GPU affected. Exactly the opposite is true. The faster CPU, the lower effect on GPU performance will it have.

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ryder0707Commented:
Its definitely not the slowest CPU
Even school kids know Intel Atom is slow compared to standard desktop cpu

 but the GPU has no dedicated memory, which can skew the results a lot.
If I were to have dedicated memory, the result would be better, so 3D gaming is not an issue in VM, simple science

Plus the Intel Atom does not support HW virtualization, so the results are once again skewed.
If I have VT, the result would be better, so 3D gaming is not an issue in VM, simple science

The faster CPU, the lower effect on GPU performance will it have.
This is really funny, otherwise we wont be having technology like TOE & DXVA
The idea of having faster GPU is to offload the process from the CPU not vice versa
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Let_Me_BeAuthor Commented:
OK, I give up.

You don't know anything about GPU technology or virtualization. Here you have your 500 points, and I just hope, I don't meet you again.
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Let_Me_BeAuthor Commented:
Here you go. Enjoy
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