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Backups failing due to folder depth on Backup Exec

I have Backup Exec 10.5 running on a Windows 2003 server backing up a Windows 2003 Storage Server to USB and to tape.  It fails on the file server.  I have managed to get it down to three folders on our business drive.  All three happen to be managed by our teachers who really like organizing their files in folders, inside of folders, inside of folders, etc...  

Some of these folder structures are 8+ deep... probably some as deep as 14.

These are the folders that make our backups fail and time out.

There are a lot of them.

Is there a GUI tool I can use that can search our file server and tell me which ones are too deep?  I need a fix because I can't copy or backup these folders like this..
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norcalty
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Rodney BarnhardtServer AdministratorCommented:
There is a limit of file\name paths that they can't be over 259 characters. The link below is refers to Windows 2000, but I have found it applies to all versions.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/210631
 
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Justin OwensITIL Problem ManagerCommented:
The size of a storage area and number of entries in a directory depends on the filesystem and operating system you are using. If this is Windows NT 4 or later and you are using NTFS for the filesystem there is effectively no limit on the number of direct child folders in a directory. There is however a limit on the total full pathname string size for file and folders, which means there is a limit on nesting depth for folders, but this will vary based on the name lengths for the folders in the path.

Your teachers can continue to nest as deeply as they want to, they just need to shorten the file and folder names.

Individual components of a filename (i.e. each subdirectory along the path, and the final filename) are limited to 255 characters, and the total path length is limited to approximately 32,000 characters. However, you should generally try to limit path lengths to below 260 characters (MAX_PATH) when possible.  See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247.aspx for full details.

Your backup logs should tell you which paths it cannot access.

Justin
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Rodney BarnhardtServer AdministratorCommented:
I am not aware of any tools that can find these files, but I would make your users aware they need to shorten paths. I have had to do the same here with users who deal with legal files. Many times the folder length is several words long. I found a lot of them when we were migrating file servers and I was using Vice Versa to copy the files. That showed me all the files that were over 259 characters saying it couldn't copy them.
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Justin OwensITIL Problem ManagerCommented:
Sorry, rbarnhardt, I didn't see you had answered.
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norcaltyAuthor Commented:
My backup software doesn't tell me which ones... it just times out.  I'm guessing this is why since it only does this on the folders with this length issue.  

I can't be the only one with this issue... and need for a tool to scan my file server and tell me how many go over the limit.
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Justin OwensITIL Problem ManagerCommented:
This might be helpful to you:

http://www.dcsoft.com/products/longff/longff.htm

Justin
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norcaltyAuthor Commented:
Hey, I found a great tool for this called THe Parhelia Path Scanner.... works like a charm even over a mapped drive.

http://www.parhelia-tools.com/products/pathscanner/PathScanner.aspx
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norcaltyAuthor Commented:
Didn't mention a tool but I found one and his answer was helpful.
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