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Windows Home Network Problems

Hi all.

I have an XP Pro Box, a Vista Home Premium Box and a Win 7 Pro box.

In the XP box, when I look under my Microsoft Windows Network I see all three pcs.
I can open shared files and folders on the Vista Box but not on the 7 box since I've set up no shares there yet.

In the Vista Box, in the Network tab, I see only the Vista box and the Win  7 Box

In the Netwok tab of the 7 box I only see the 7 box.  However, when I look at the network map on the 7 box I do see the Vista box and there is a ? where, seemingly, the XP box would be.
I cannot log into the Vista box from there however.

I am running Kaspersky Firewall on all 3 boxes, but that doesn't seem relevant in this case since I can open shares from the XP box.

All 3 pcs are on the same workgroup.

So, why can't I see the XP box from vista?  Why can't I see either from the 7 box.

Thanks
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tljones00Commented:
On the Windows 7 box and the Vista box is the network type set to public? If so, that will cause the machines to be unbrowsable in the master browser.
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ButchDogAuthor Commented:
Ok.
The network on the Vista Box is set to Public.
Not sure where to do this in the 7 Box.
Looking at the "active networks" pane/box in the Network and Sharing Center on 7, my network is called a Home Network.  Is that what you speak of?

Also, I changed a setting in Kaspersky on the 7 box to a local network instead of a public one and now I can open shares on the 7 box from the XP and Vista.

Still can't see the XP or the Vista from the 7 box.

Bit by bit, I guess.
Is it me or shouldn't this be this hard?

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tljones00Commented:
Try changing it to a work network on the 7 box. Unfortunately I don't have a 7 box at my disposal at the moment, but yes, that is what I'm referring too.
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tljones00Commented:
And set the Vista box to a work network as well, if it is set to public it is screwed down ultra tight and won't allow much.
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ButchDogAuthor Commented:
I only have two choices in Vista; public or private in the customize menu.
Is there somewhere else I can set the work/home status?
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tljones00Commented:
Set it to private, forgot it was the home version.
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ButchDogAuthor Commented:
Yeah, that's what it was set to.

So I'm still stuck at
Neither Vista or 7 can see XP
XP sees everything.
Vista can see 7 but not XP.

???

Thanks again.
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ButchDogAuthor Commented:
Update!

All of the sudden, I don't know why, I can see the XP box from the Vista box.

Go figure.

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tljones00Commented:
XP  is the least restrictive of the bunch. Is Windows firewall running on 7?
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tljones00Commented:
If so turn it off, you already have a solution on that.
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tljones00Commented:
Also , you might want to run network discovery on 7 again (it did it on Vista automatically It will do it every 15 to 20 minutes)
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ButchDogAuthor Commented:
Got it!!

Did a reboot on the 7 box and all of the sudden there were all the pcs on the network.
This is something that I tried several times so I'm not sure why it worked this time.

I hate Windows sometimes.

Thanks for your help TJ!

I'm going to leave this question open for a bit in case I run into a glitch.

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ButchDogAuthor Commented:
Still cannot consistently login to the XP box.
It's sooooo sporadic!

Sometimes I can np.
Other times not at all.

The most recent loggin I was able to do was from the Vista box and it popped a dialog asking for username and password.  I typed in the appropriate info for one of the accounts on the XP box and there are all my shares.

Still can't loggin at all from the 7 box.
I changed the name of the XP box just for grins and both the Vista and the 7 box can see the new name in their network list of pcs but I still get the "\\XP-Box-Name is not accessible.  You might not have permissions..." dialog.

Any thoughts?
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ButchDogAuthor Commented:
So, in a nutshell, this is where I am.

7 box can see and edit files on Vista.
Vista Box can see and edit files on 7 box.

XP box can see Vista but cannot change files.
Vista can see XP  box and CAN change files!

XP can see 7 box cannot loggin.
7 box can see XP but cannot loggin.

Ugh.
What a nightmare!!

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ButchDogAuthor Commented:
I must be missing something in the setup of this network.
Can anyone recommend a good book that can educate me?

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ButchDogAuthor Commented:
OK.  Problem Solved!

I wasn't sure how sticky these things are about logging into one box from the same loggin of another.
I made sure they matched and now it all works.

Is there any way to log into X loggin on one PC from the Y loggin of another?

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ButchDogAuthor Commented:
Well, I thought it was solved.
Of course, computers can work fine one minute and then not the next; for whatever reason.
:>(

Now, without changing anything, I can't loggin to the XP box from the 7 box.
When I try to do so from the Vista box I get a popup asking for UserName and Password.
This has happened before and it's something that I prefer.

However, the 7 box gives me the same error that I don't have permissions etc.
I logged in with the same loggin ID like I did last night when it DID work.

Gawd this is frustrating!
Even more so since the XP is my main desktop that I want to use as my "server" to house all my files and sync up to my laptop(s).  Not real productive if I can't sync regularly or without hassles!

Grrrrr!

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tljones00Commented:
Authentication problems are something completely different. If you can see the machines you are good as far as the original problem goes. Now you just need your sharing and security issues resolved. Make sure your shares and your security tabs mimic each other, otherwise you will get access denied errors.
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