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Corrupt MP3s?? I'm unable to play them.

Hello everyone. I searched the web for several hours last night with no luck, so I decided to see if anyone here could help me.

I'm trying to figure out what would randomly cause my problem below, as well as a way to fix it if that's even possible, but I have my doubts.

I have about a little over 30GB of full albums (which I purchase online or rip from my personal discs). Just recently I noticed (not sure how long it has been), many of my albums are unseen in iTunes. Looking further at these songs I see that they are unreadable in ANY program I've tried (including Foobar, Windows Media, Audacity). They show no 'tag' data like my songs that work. They are simply the song title. I see no author/album information. Some of these were ripped, some were downloaded, so it doesn't narrow down to one or the other.

I've also tried using several repair tools like MP3 Repair Tool 1.5 and MP3Tag. These tools supposedly chop off the beginning and end (remove the tags) and make the MP3 playable again, but they do not work. They are showing up as "unknown file type" in MP3Tag.

Other notes: I have an HP a1253w with XP Media Center (fully updated). It is known to have audio driver issues. I had a secondary sound card in it, but pulled it recently and cannot get the audio driver to install. I transferred the music to another machine and tested it there though with the same results.
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MereteCommented:
Hi sjl1986,
there's 2 areas to cover here
the first
 have about a little over 30GB of full albums (which I purchase online << these shoudl be able to restore from Itunes

The second
 or rip from my personal discs). << coudl be a bad rip.
Do you see these in a library or on a folder?
Take one of the nameless and drop it onto Gspot to see what's wrong
Gspot establishes what video and audio codecs are required to play any video.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/GSpot
Post back the Gspot results with a snapshot, use the attach file below save as jpeg
I'll take a look at it then
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sjl1986Author Commented:
Thanks for the reply Merete. For the answer to your first idea, I purchased them online and the ones I did purchase I have been able to restore, though it wasn't through iTunes, so no problem there (mostly just want to know why they screwed up).

Secondly, the CDs that I ripped have worked in the past and then suddenly they don't, so it shouldn't be a bad rip.

I tested one of the files with the GSpot program (thanks for that, I used to have the program but forgot about it). It says the file type and mime type are "unknown", basically like some of the other programs I've tried to test it with. There's really nothing else to post, so I left the screenshot out. All the other results are grayed out and don't exist.

One thing has come to memory just now though. I had a hard drive fail a while back and when doing a checkdisk it said it was repairing and deleting, blah blah, and whenever it completed my entire drive was trashed. All the music on it stopped working. I guess it is possible that this is some of the same music which got transferred over with corruption, so I highly doubt it, but even at that I'd love to be able to repair what checkdisk destroyed. Thanks Microsoft, for your handy dandy hard drive tool...(It initially cost me about 100GB of music loss). And yes, I backed up twice, but unfortunately I dropped one hard drive during transfer and coincidentally this one failed at the same time...Haha.
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MereteCommented:
Awe that's sad.
I dont know what else to offer, if Gspot reports mime type are "unknown", try r/clicking them and open with.
These tracks off a CD are they CDA? or mp3?
CDA ( audio discs)  if copied off an audio disc as is CDA
are rendered useless once on the hard drive you have to extract them from CDA to mp3.
CDEX  or WMP will do this
If they belonged to Itunes and were burnt within Itunes they have DRM. in  Itunes  import them off the CD and then export as.
http://askbobrankin.com/convert_itunes_to_mp3_format.html
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sjl1986Author Commented:
Thanks again for the suggestions. Nah, these tracks are definitely MP3. I ran into another album on my iPod this morning that was definitely corrupt on the hard drive this weekend. It was a local band my friend gave me the tracks to. I thought I had lost them for good because they were corrupt on the drive, but somehow just last week when I completely resynced my iPod that album made it on there. Now iTunes won't even see the files as MP3s. As for the DRM thing, that's the very reason I never purchased anything from iTunes in the past. I know they are getting away from that now, but I still don't use them for purchasing.

I guess I'll just have to give up on getting those back. I'll just have to do it slowly. For now I've sorted all the bad stuff to another folder so I can reclaim it all and delete the bad ones as I replace them.

The only thing that bothers me is that recent album I found....makes me wonder if I have a bad spot on my hard drive. I'll run a hard drive test on it later. It's 1.5TB so that could take forever. Haha. Thanks again for all the help. I'll just mark the question as closed and give you points if I don't get a response back in the next day or so.
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MereteCommented:
No worries you can just accept your last comment as the solution. Since no answer really assistsed here
sadly cannot fix corrupted mp3, If you cant play them.
Cheers
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☠ MASQ ☠Commented:
is there one you could upload to let us have a look at it?
If you've used a file trimmer there's a chance the header has been damaged making the file type unrecognisable.
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sjl1986Author Commented:
Here's the file you requested. I've tried doing the trim with a couple and got the same results, but maybe you have a program that I don't have.

EE wouldn't allow me to upload a .mp3 so I changed the extension to .zip. Simply change it back. It's not actually zipped. I tried that and EE said one of the zipped files was not allowed for upload.
03-Ocean-Avenue.zip
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☠ MASQ ☠Commented:
The file just consists of zero bytes :(
Looks like your drive has allocated space for a file that no longer exists.
You can check some of the others and compare with working files using a hex editor like:
http://www.hhdsoftware.com/Downloads/hex-editor-free.html 
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sjl1986Author Commented:
Ok...how can you tell the file has 0 bytes? it says 7MB on my computer. Can you elaborate just a bit on what you mean about the drive allocating space for the missing file? I have a hex editor. I'll check that out. Thanks.


The weirdest thing to me is just that one album that like I mentioned, is actually on my iPod meaning it transferred less than a week ago, and now it's unreadable at all....so odd.
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☠ MASQ ☠Commented:
The file has 7MB allocated to it but the contents of those 7MB are just recurrent zeros - when you look with the Hex Editor it will make more sense.
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sjl1986Author Commented:
Ahh ok. I see what you mean. Well thanks for the help. I'll just least it at that then.
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MereteCommented:
One thought, I use winamp and if you r/click a mp3 in winamp playlist
then View file info
you can see the ID3v1  tags ID3v2
I found if I have both ID tags winamp creates a read only copy of the mp3 like a ghost of the ID3v1
if you take this mp3 and remove the ID3v2 tag it removes this ghost and makes one.
I only found out about this when moving the folders of My Music of one of friends computer to a slaved hard drive. If the files copied over missed the ID3v2 then it became read only
If you have Winamp check the ID3v 1 with your mp3 that are iffy and wont play




ID3v1-tags.jpg
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sjl1986Author Commented:
Ok, I will try that also. I had thought about trying WinAmp, but I didn't really know what it could do differently than the other things I've tried. I haven't used WinAmp in years. I used to love it, I just started using iTunes because I like how the music is organized, and then I got an iPod. I'll report back.
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MereteCommented:
Hi sjl1986 just to cover all basis
are all the mp3 you have now imported into itunes library?
Regardless if they are bought or ripped off CD's?
I'd try deleteing the library and the playlists then let itunes recreate it.
You may have moved some mp3 and the library and play lists are out of date
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sjl1986Author Commented:
Thanks Merete, but that isn't the issue. They were all imported and I deleted the entire library to do exactly what you're saying and iTunes refuses to import the bad songs. Basically, iTunes knows it should be the player because the file is .MP3, but beyond that iTunes does nothing because no data seems to exist in the files. I think it's a lost cause. I'll just re-download and re-rip.

Oh, and I haven't had a chance to try the winamp idea yet. I was out of town last night. I'll work on that this weekend.
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MereteCommented:
On another question here at EE I saw this may or may not assist you but I'll add it anyway
...company that makes iPodRip released a new version (now called iRip) which fixes the problem and  restores the Playlists properly.
http://thelittleappfactory.com/irip/
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sjl1986Author Commented:
Hey sorry for the delay. I had a death in the family and some other stuff going on and I haven't had a chance to test the files any more. Give me a couple more days and I'll let you know something.
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MereteCommented:
My condolances to you sjl1986 must be a sad time in your family
Please do come back when you feel up to it
regards Merete
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sjl1986Author Commented:
Hello. Once again, I apologize for the delay. I almost forgot about the question until I got a reminder from EE. I just tested one of the songs with Winamp, and in Winamp's playlist it shows as a 0min song, and when checking the properties of the song, neither the ID3v1 or the ID3v2 tag seem to exist. I'm pretty sure I'm just out of luck, but thanks for the help and for all the ideas and programs.
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MereteCommented:
You'r most welcome
looks like yu are out of luck on this one. Sorry to hear you lost a few songs.
Well you still have names to get them back off the cd's
Be well sjl1986
Regads Merete
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sjl1986Author Commented:
Thanks a lot Merete, and also Masqueraid. You offered some great answers and tools, which no doubt would have repaired my MP3s if I really had any! Take care.
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