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Administration mode on Terminal server 2008

Hello there,
I have following scenario:
Windows SBS 2008 Premium installed on two machines:
1) The SBS
2) and the premium Standard server 2008 acting as Terminal server connected to SBS domain.

Licencing server is activated for 5 User CAL.

All is working all right. Problem is that Im -  as administrator (logging in not as administrator but under SBS created admin account: adm.jan.vanicek for example) - getting one TS per User CAL. I think that for administration is no licence needed. Im only administrator there...

Can anyone explain it for me please?
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Cláudio Rodrigues
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Unless you install the Terminal Services role, no TS CAL is required at all. From what I remember you cannot even install such role on SBS so from a TS CAL perspective you are not using anything.

Cláudio Rodrigues
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But I have to install the TS role on the standard server (the second licence from SBS premium) and Im using it for that clients... there are four users and I, now the client wants to use the 5th licence but it is blocked by me... That is wrong by my opinion.
The SBS gurus will have to help us here. I am not sure what you mean by 'second license of SBS premium'. Unless that means a regular, Windows Server 2008 Standard or up license, you cannot install the TS role on SBS.
Also note there are two different licenses required with TS:
- Windows CALs.
- Windows Terminal Services CALs.
SBS as far as I know do NOT come with TS CALs at all.
To use TS you would need a second server running a plain Windows Server 2008 license and then load the Terminal Services AND the Terminal Services Licensing role to that box. Once you do that you purchase TS CALs and add them on the licensing server (the TS in this example). Also note that Per User TS CALs are NOT enforced as per device ones are.

Cláudio Rodrigues
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What it seems like is that the system is using a SBS CAL not a TS CAL which is different.
Claudio is right you might be confused with the CAL you are using currently.
There is two SBS on market:
SBS standard
SBS premium (SBS standard 2008 + standard server 2008)

I have bought the premium.

also I have bought the 5 TS User CAL.

Im using the standard server 2008 as member server and Terminal server.
SBS is sold with 5 CAL, and I have bought 5 TS licences also... my licencing server is running well. Clients are working... everything is ok, but Im - as an Administrator - using one of the TS CALs - that is wrong, I think
If your TS server is now if Application Mode then it doesn't matter who connects they will get a TS CAL.

Sorry I got it now.
That behavior was present also in Windows 2003 Terminal Server? Im not sure that I need TS CAL for administrator account...
Now I understand. Once the TS role is installed, from what I remember, no matter which user logs in, a TS CAL is used, assuming Per User TS CAL. If you connect using MSTSC /admin then I think no TS CAL is used as you are 'grabbing' the console itself.

Cláudio Rodrigues
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It is very interesting meaning... I will test it, maybe someone can explain it better. Thank you for a while.
For an example if you are running in Admin Mode you don't have to be a domain admin or admin to logon to the TS server when in Admin Mode you just have to be part of the Remote Desktop Group.
I must wait while my licence is expired, or it can be freed someway else?
What license? Can you explain in a little more detail.
In the report of used CALs, there 1 CAL is for my user name... Is there a way to free the CAL without reactivating cals?
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ok, I have User CALs...