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Windows Streaming Problems With WD TV Live
Can anyone please help me by explaining the difference between a network share on a DNS-323 NAS device and both Windows Vista and Windows 7 network shares.
I have been testing a WD TV Live media player with Blue Ray rips and when playing the films from a shared folder on any of my windows PC`s (all high spec and 1Gb network) the films stutter and stop start. Regular media plays ok, I am talking about 1080p content whith total film sizes of 10-16GB. It is not the speed of the network because I have a small cheap DNS -323 NAS device and if I drop the movie files onto its shared folders they play perfectly and you could also drag movie files across the network to the device whilst playing and the film doesn`t glitch at all. I have 4 apple TV boxes and from the same pc`s as being used in this test, 4 different films can be streamed simultaneously and network copying with no error (I know apple has a buffer ;-)). Basically the quad core pc`s should be better at streaming the 1080p data than the DNS-323 NAS device but they are not, so I am trying to find out what is different at packet level, I think they are both samba. I did manage to get the windows 7 machine streaming by disabling the recieve auto-tune on the TCIP (netsh), but it was fragile; If I did something else on the network with that pc then the stutturing re-occured.
The WD TV Live has a facility whereby you can plug in a USB device directly to it and this device becomes available as a network share, so that content can be copied to it convenienty from the PC that you make the rip or have the media. When copying the data the most I could get was 1.6MB/s which eventually slowed down to 342KB/s; this made it impossible to get any data to the drive in a reasonable time. WD TV Live has a 100Mbit LAN, so I just don`t understand why it can`t communicate with windows at a decent speed, but can with the DND-323 NAS device. I would prefer to stream from a PC because the data storage can be expanded much easier (2TB USB or even more internals) and cheaper than NAS devices; but even if I decide to buy another NAS device I won`t know if it will work until I buy it, unless I understand why WD TV Live will communicate with a linksys DNS - 323 at high speed, but not windows pc`s :-(.
I read about SMB and NFS, but didn`t really understand and it seems that Vista can`t do NFS etc..... I think that the DNS 323 is samba.
Thanks in advance
Derek
I have been testing a WD TV Live media player with Blue Ray rips and when playing the films from a shared folder on any of my windows PC`s (all high spec and 1Gb network) the films stutter and stop start. Regular media plays ok, I am talking about 1080p content whith total film sizes of 10-16GB. It is not the speed of the network because I have a small cheap DNS -323 NAS device and if I drop the movie files onto its shared folders they play perfectly and you could also drag movie files across the network to the device whilst playing and the film doesn`t glitch at all. I have 4 apple TV boxes and from the same pc`s as being used in this test, 4 different films can be streamed simultaneously and network copying with no error (I know apple has a buffer ;-)). Basically the quad core pc`s should be better at streaming the 1080p data than the DNS-323 NAS device but they are not, so I am trying to find out what is different at packet level, I think they are both samba. I did manage to get the windows 7 machine streaming by disabling the recieve auto-tune on the TCIP (netsh), but it was fragile; If I did something else on the network with that pc then the stutturing re-occured.
The WD TV Live has a facility whereby you can plug in a USB device directly to it and this device becomes available as a network share, so that content can be copied to it convenienty from the PC that you make the rip or have the media. When copying the data the most I could get was 1.6MB/s which eventually slowed down to 342KB/s; this made it impossible to get any data to the drive in a reasonable time. WD TV Live has a 100Mbit LAN, so I just don`t understand why it can`t communicate with windows at a decent speed, but can with the DND-323 NAS device. I would prefer to stream from a PC because the data storage can be expanded much easier (2TB USB or even more internals) and cheaper than NAS devices; but even if I decide to buy another NAS device I won`t know if it will work until I buy it, unless I understand why WD TV Live will communicate with a linksys DNS - 323 at high speed, but not windows pc`s :-(.
I read about SMB and NFS, but didn`t really understand and it seems that Vista can`t do NFS etc..... I think that the DNS 323 is samba.
Thanks in advance
Derek
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Thanks for your reply. From all I can find the linksys NAS isn`t NFS either, but many posts show that it is no faster than samba and when dragging files between windows and NAS or windows and windows the transfer rate is amazing. I think there is more to it, so I have also written to western digital.
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Ok I am 50% complete now with the solution although the question of why is still unanswered.
If I use the free copy of Teracopy to transfer the rips from the PC to the WDTV Live USB drive across the network I get 12MB/Sec. The 100Mbit lan port on WDTV is only capable of 12.5MB/sec, so i can`t grumble about that :-). As a reminder without Teracopy I get 1.6MB/sec max, but usually less.
So now I know for sure that it is the windows language / protocols that don`t work properly with WD TV Live but I have found a solution for transfering at expected speed. I will now find out what Teracopy does or uses to do this and then maybe try and apply a similar solution for the streaming. By tonight I hope to have 1 PC streaming 1080p to a WDTV Live box, also streaming 4 seperate films to 4 X apple boxes and just for the mix I will do a massive file copy to the NAS, just to see if the 1000Mbit (125MB/sec) splits up nicely :-).
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If I use the free copy of Teracopy to transfer the rips from the PC to the WDTV Live USB drive across the network I get 12MB/Sec. The 100Mbit lan port on WDTV is only capable of 12.5MB/sec, so i can`t grumble about that :-). As a reminder without Teracopy I get 1.6MB/sec max, but usually less.
So now I know for sure that it is the windows language / protocols that don`t work properly with WD TV Live but I have found a solution for transfering at expected speed. I will now find out what Teracopy does or uses to do this and then maybe try and apply a similar solution for the streaming. By tonight I hope to have 1 PC streaming 1080p to a WDTV Live box, also streaming 4 seperate films to 4 X apple boxes and just for the mix I will do a massive file copy to the NAS, just to see if the 1000Mbit (125MB/sec) splits up nicely :-).
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