Use a bootable OS to remove virus from pc

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Hi Experts.  I had an Ultimate Boot CD 4 Windows disc but it is in the car so I thought I would go ahead and see what other boot cd's the experts were using to boot up a computer and run various AV/root kit/spyware scanners with.  If you could (and because I'm running out of energy tonight), please provide the iso link so I can download and roll.

I appreciate all of your help!
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but here is a common list of antivirus boot cds you can download

http://www.techmixer.com/free-bootable-antivirus-rescue-cds-download-list/

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I use bartPE and UBCD4Win

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

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thanks for the quick reply.  not trying to sound like a douche but where is the download link?  i checked that site out before and gave up after a little bit because i couldn't find it.  guess i wasn't patient enough.
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Oh wow....   Serious masqueraid?  

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Before I ask for this discussion to be taken to a private forum, what is pirated on that image?  I was able to download it but would like to know why that wasn't an acceptable answer.

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I flagged the question for review.
Right off the bat, the first four on the list are commercial software...

PartitionMagic - Symantec
Disk Director - Acronis
Partition Manager - Paragon Software
Partition Commander - Avanquest Software

I've paid for 3 of the 4.  How could anyone assume that these are "free" for anyone to use?


The only questionable items on the BartPE image I see right away are:
          o McAfee commandline virus scanner by Network Associates.
          o McAfee AVERT Stinger by Network Associates.

And these, which already have a disclaimer:
    * Plugin included with PE Builder, but the user needs to buy the program:
          o Ghost v8.0 by Symantec.
          o Nero Burning Rom by Ahead Software.

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How could anyone "assume" these are for free? Well smart guy, I guess I could if you really wanted to know. Didn't know you bought them. I can safely say that I didn't go through each piece of software line by line and research whether or not it was something you had to pay for. I was really more after the virus/spyware software. So if [Admin Edit - VM] gets cut out, why not Bart's? Just saying.

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Tell me why I would buy this:
-Partition Manager 2010 Free Edition Non-commercial use only. The safest tool for hard drive partitioning!

And with Partition Magic from Symantec not being produced any longer, do you still need to buy licenses for it?  (I really don't know on this one)


 
Yes, I was being a smart-a$$.

> I can safely say that I didn't go through each piece of software line by line and research whether or not it was something you had to pay for.

I don't expect that anyone does.  Why would you?  Most people don't care about licensing, especially when they're trying to rescue a dead or dying computer.

But, if it's distributed via torrent and contains brand names of commercial software...chances are _fairly_ good that something is not legit.

Not saying it ALL is...there are plenty of demo version, free for home-use, or open-source/GPL, etc.

But, I did think it was funny that the top ones on the list are commercial companies.

>And with Partition Magic from Symantec not being produced any longer, do you still need to buy licenses for it?

The software does not fall into the public domain when a company stops selling it.  If that were the case, DOS, Windows, MacOS, etc would be fair game.

Some software is subsumed into other apps or suites of apps...which makes it cost-prohibitive to buy.  Some are just left to dies altogether, with no way to buy it.

One of my favorite tools McAfee VisualTrace, which they bought from NeoWorx, is no longer available as a standalone app.  I guard the installer (from 2001) carefully.

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Could you also use something like this?  http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN2103

***Not pirated so no one freak the heck out***  Also, hopefully no one paid for it.  : - )

How could you use this tool?
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ESET Smart Security 4.0 and ESET NOD32 Antivirus 4.0 include an entirely new wizard for creating bootable media such as CD, DVD or USB flash drive.  Users can boot an infected computer from this recovery medium to both scan and clean the system.

ESET SysRescue makes use of Microsoft Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK), a tool to create standalone “pre-installation” versions of Microsoft Windows that can be started from bootable media.
 
To download WAIK click here. The file is approximately 1.3GB in size and is in .iso (recordable DVD) format. To install WAIK, you will need to either burn the file to a DVD±R disc, or use a virtual DVD program to access it.
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aleghart: now see, that was the kind of response that makes me think you are a pretty cool tech.  Thank you!  I knew that was in there somewhere.

I really had no idea of what software is "to buy" any more.  With so much open source and companies trying to release "free" apps to say competitive, I guess I assumed (seems contagious today : ) ).

Fair enough and thank you for being constructive!

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Quote "One of my favorite tools McAfee VisualTrace, which they bought from NeoWorx, is no longer available as a standalone app.  I guard the installer (from 2001) carefully."  Is VisualTrace any good?  You said it's no longer a standalone app which means I can't legally download it from somewhere and use it or I have to use it on top of an existing OS?  Thanks aleghart.
>Is VisualTrace any good?
I'm still using it after 8-9 years...

>You said it's no longer a standalone app which means I can't legally download it from somewhere and use it or I have to use it on top of an existing OS?

I believe that McAfee has bundled it in another suite.  Last time I saw it a few years ago, it was in a security bundle for medium-sized businesses.  Not the ~$40 I paid for the standalone version.

The standalone app is not available.  Unfortunately, online help is dead.  And, you'll have to enter your starting lat/lon coordinates manually in the advanced config...it can't contact the geo location server.

It used to be called NeoTrace...plenty of "free" downloads, but none of them licensed or authorized for full-time use.

It's nice to trace the hops from here to a server 75 miles away...the packets will travel thousands of miles, even jumping from west coast to middle America, then back.

Also nice to find which elementary school in China (or Catholic school in the US) that was the source of the last attempted crack at your firewall.
Another route you can take if you have a good working PC is use a USB to SATA/IDE cable.  It does require removing the drive from the computer or laptop and the drive have a partition that is readable.  You hook it up to the drive to test and scan it with the good computer.  Windows will see it as a USB drive, and you could also use that cable to backup data.  They are about $30 on Newegg.
>EE takes intellectual property protections very seriously.

Which is good, considering that some of the volunteer experts here make a living in the industry.

Not that the legal ramifications are unimportant...but you shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you.
if you know where the virus is located on your disk etc, you could use any linux live cd to boot the pc and then remove the files. Ubuntu is a popular distro or knoppix
Other suggestion I would make if you have a virus on your HDD is remove the HDD and either install it into a another computer with an uptodate virus - malware scanner /put it in a external HDD caddy and scan it with an antivirus on that PC.
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Kaspersky live cd http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/

Eset's bootable rescue cd (as far as i'm aware of) has to be created when Eset is installed on a machine and that rescue cd will only work on that machine. Whatever way it implements MS's AIK kit, it ties the rescue cd to that specific machine.
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u can try any rescue boot cd or online scanner and personally used this
1.webroot internet security-security app(trial version)
2.Advanced system optimizer-registry cleaner app(full version)
3.malwarebyte-security app(full version)


try this.Thanks kart4578

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Didn't realize I hadn't closed this out yet.  My apologies to everyone.  Will close out and award points in the morning.  Thanks for your patience.

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Thanks to all for their suggestions.  Since I really wanted to get the pc fixed, I used the "H" word's virus scanner (spybot search/destroy) to remove the largest infection and could then boot Windows up where I used combofix and malwarebytes.  

I agree that using pirated software is not only illegal but unethical from a professional stand point.  That being said, the question was intended to find a free, bootable OS on a CD that I could use to remove enough of the viruses so I could use additional free tools, not use the question as a swap meet for pirated software.  I appreciate everyone's professionalism (even if it took some a little longer then others to act professional) and will begin awarding points/closing the question out.  Thanks again for your time and patience.

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Thanks again experts!  I have some new software to look through and test out.  I appreciate everyone's time and look forward to working with you in the near future.

Regards,
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You're welcome:)

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