How do I isolate favicons from their websites?

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I wish to know how to isolate the favicon in any website.
 
Then, having done that, I can put that image into my Image Icon
Converter and convert it into an icon which will be permanent.

Once I have it as an icon I can move around and call my own,
then I can manipulate it toward my ultimate goal-keeping my
desktop icons from disappearing.

Thanks in advance.  I await any replies.

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Capturing favicons:
Via a search engine: http://www.getfavicon.org/ 
Using a browser add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3176

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Hi, and thanks for the reply and solution.

The first source seems to work wonders for me--up to a point.  More about that later.

The second source I'm not sure about.  I downloaded it but I did not see what it did yet.  Whatever it does is not obvious to me.  Can you clarify what it does?  Do you think it would be in my best interest to uninstall it?

The first source: http://www.getfavicon.org/ is more of what I am looking for.  I took one of the favicons (from spaceweather.com) and put it through the ringer.  Behold, the favicon came out!

Then I took that favicon and put it through my Image Icon Converter and created an icon image which I then put in a folder I call Favicons.

I did this again for another website: Heavens-Above.com.  At first I did not spell Heaven's Above properly and it did not take.  But when I spelled it Heavens-Above.com, it took.

My next task was the Microsoft Office Online website.  This is where I need some help.  No matter how I alter the spelling, I can't get a Favicon.

Yet it has one.  To see it, all you need do is add Microsoft Office Online website to your Favorites and you will see it to the left of the add on.  Or you can try putting a Microsoft Office Online website shortcut to your desktop and see if you get its' favicon.  There may be other ways to see it, too.

But I can't seem to pull it up using the source you provided.  What am I doing wrong?  Is there another way to isolate it and other troublesome favicons i have yet to encounter?  My intention is to save all my desktop favicons so they do not change back to the Internet Explorer 'e'.

Why do all of this?  Because I am having trouble with desktop icons changing back to Internet Explorer 'e' icons.  I want to create a file (or folder) of my favorite icons from websites for storage of the icons I like.

Now I need to link the Favicon folder to the desktop icon website shortcut itself.  How do I do that?

I hope you and others can continue to help me.  Thanks.

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Hello,

I managed to solve the problem of the more difficult website favicons that do not appear using http://www.getfavicon.org/.

Instead, I used http://www.google.com/s2/favicons?domain=yourdomain.com.

This pulled up the favicons for those websites that didn't work in your 'Get Favicon' site which I then put through my Image Icon Converter and added to my Favicon Folder.

I still need to know how to link my Favicon Folder to the individual icon desktop shortcuts.and their websites.  Can anyone tell me how to do that?

Currently I have the desktop shortcuts and their favicons put on my desktop in the normal way of creating a desktop shortcut-by right clicking and selecting Create Desktop Shortcut for any website.  They are what I would call  'unprotected'.  What I mean by that is that the favicons are being stored in some temporary internet files location of some sort and so are subject to disappearing and reverting to the IE 'e'.  I don't know where exactly they are temporarily stored.

So this is the reason I want to link my Favicon folder icons to replace the current (although they are the very same) icons.  It's just that they are now stored in a permanent location-my Favicon Folder.

I hope someone has the answer for me.

Thanks.
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If I understand your question correctly ... just go to domain/favicon.ico and it will open the image.  Right-click and Save As (only option is BMP).  Then right-click on the shortcut, go to Properties, then Change Icon, choosing the icon from where ever you saved it.
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Author

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OK, yes, I am seeing some results.  Thanks.  But they are slow to come.

For instance, I am able to go to Properties and Change Icon, choosing the icon from where I saved it.  It worked!

In some cases.  Actually only 3 out of  9 times did it work.  The other 6 icons did not take.  I wonder why?

I get an error message: Problem With Shortcut   Cannot apply changes to this Internet Shortcut.  Why?  What could be causing these other icons not to replace themselves onto my desktop?

Could it be because I renamed some of them?  I am not sure.

Next problem....I used Paint to spruce up one of my icons.  Never used Paint before but it looks nice.  It created the new Paint image icon right next to the old one (both in my Favicons folder)  I renamed it so they would not have the same name.

I try to exchange it onto my desktop for the old one but it is not recognized in the Favicons folder.  I click Properties, Change Icon, then go to Favicons folder but it is not there for me to select from.  Yet it is there-I'm looking right at it!  It's just not being put out there for me to select it.  Why? and what to do about it?

I hope I am making some sense to you about all of this.  I'm getting to where I want to be with all this but every time I take one step forward, it seems I take two steps back and have to solve unexpected problems that pop up.
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I have never had any problems doing this on my Desktop or IE Links bar, so I'm not sure what might be causing it not to work, but I tend to think there might be something weird with the shortcut, as you mentioned.  Although, renaming is not an issue for me either.

As far as saving your own, for a "true" favicon.ico, you need to convert it to an .ico from a more popular format (BMP, JPG, PNG).  You can do this at convertico.com.  If you created your own BMP and are just using it on your Desktop or IE Links, when you click on Change Icon, did you change the File Type drop-down to All Files?  It will default to Icon File Type (.ico).  You should be able to add it then.  If you convert it to an ICO file, then it will show up in the default list.

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Hi again,

I use a paid for icon changer called Image Icon Converter.  These icons are coming in as PNG images which this Converter converts to ICO files. At least, that's my understanding.  It seems to work OK.

Indeed, when I right click on the new icons and look at their Properties, they do now have .ico extensions and are now called icon files.  I will take a look at Convertico.com just out of curiosity.  I am not sure about what you mean when you say change the File Type drop-down to All Files.  Is that something that is only applicable to Convertico.com?

I agree with you that I may have a different type of problem now.  I just tried to move my new Paint icon to the Documents file and try accessing it there (trying to create a desktop shortcut).  Once again, it is not showing up to be selected from.

It is there if you look in the Documents folder from the direction of  the Start button>Documents.

It is not there if you look for it in the Documents folder by way of Properties>Change Icon>Browse>Documents.

I am thinking I need to post a new question on this matter and perhaps close out this icon question as solved.  I am thinking that your solutions seem to work except for these glitches.  Do you concur?

Thanks.
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No ... I'm sorry.  Nothing to do with Convertico.com - that is just a way of converting bmp/jpg/png to an ico file.  

If you are not seeing your .bmp files when you try and change your icon through right-click, Properties, Change Icon, then you need to change the File Type drop-down (below the filename box) to All Files, rather than Icon Files.  When you are changing the icon, the default is to show Icon files that have an .ico extension.

Yes, I would agree, as ther

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PowerEdgeTechIT Consultant
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Sorry ... submit happy :)  I would agree that you have the way to save the favicons, but there seems to be an issue with the shortcuts you are attaching them to.

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OK, just tried your message about changing Icon Files to All Files.  The layout is a little different from the pictures you provided but I did find where it says Icon Files and did change it to All Files....but to no avail.

The same thing happened, the same error message: Problem With Shortcut   Cannot apply changes to this Internet Shortcut.

I don't fully understand where you are seeing ,bmp files at.  When I right click on the desktop shortcut and look at Properties, then under the General tab, I see Type of File: Internet Shortcut (.url).  When I look at the file in my Favicons folder, I see Type of File: Icon (.ico), where I have already changed it to an .ico file.

I have to go to work now.  I work 2nd shift.  I will try to be back tomorrow.  Meantime, I guess it's time to close out this thread and award points.  I will try and do so tomorrow if nothing else comes up here.

Thanks and I look forward to any further replies and a chance to receive your help again sometime.
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What is the url you are trying to create a shortcut for ... maybe I can duplicate the message and figure it out.

BMP is the default file format for those types of images.  When you right-click on the favicon on a website, and click Save As, it will show you that it is saving a BMP file type, even if it has a .ico extension.  

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Good morning,

I have been trying some things this morning before writing back to you.

Yes, I do see some .bmp images in a few places now so I think I know what you are talking about.  Although most of my images seem to be .png.  

As to the websites I am trying to convert.  They are Tech Support Forum, Tom's Hardware Forum. and Computer Hope forum, just to name a few.

In regard to the other problem, (the problem of the file not showing up in every pathway of the Destination location you put it in) I am finding ways to work around it.  It seem I can eventually find a path to that file but in a roundabout way.  This is not right and I still need this problem solved but at least for now there is a slight way around it.  I haven't tested that way thoroughly though.

Thanks

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To PowerEdgeTech,

Hello. I haven't heard from you lately.  Were you able to make out any solutions to the favicon problem for the websites I mentioned?

As to my file location problem, I find that by clicking on All Files when searching, this helps in finding more files that show up.

If I don't hear anything more in the next few days, I will close this thread and award points.

Thanks.
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Top Expert 2010
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Sorry about that ... we had a baby, so I haven't been around much :)

I have successfully created shortcuts both on my Desktop and in IE and changed the icon permanently to the Favicon I downloaded from the respective sites.  Tom's Hardware was different from the other two in that their Favicon is (somehow) in PNG format.  

I just want to make sure I understand ... your "file location problem" ... is this the location of your Shortcuts or the Favicons that you downloaded, or which "files" are you looking for?
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Congrats P-E-T :)
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Thanks for the reply and congratulations also--a healthy baby, I trust?

Take what time you need.  I need to review my situation as well since I have been so busy lately that I have forgotten exactly what the details of the problem were-I will have to find time to recreate my problem.  Perhaps this weekend I can.

I will post again.
PowerEdgeTechIT Consultant
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Ok ... I'll watch for it.

All went well, and he is healthy ... thank you both!

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Hello again.  I am going to shut down this thread and award points.  I find that I am going to have to start a new question as this one has migrated into something more than what it started off to be.

I am still unable to easily transfer the icons to the desktop.  Some do with no problem.  Others will not follow that same procedure.  I don't know why.  That will be my next topic as soon as I can formulate it into question form.

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There was no solution as of yet.  We are still working on the problem.  But the problem continues to morph into new avenues and new questions.

I am hopeful that time will lend a solution to all questions.

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