Have .tib - Need vmware

Hello. I am having a lot of issues taking a physical machine backup, and making a virtual machine out of it. (MS Server 2003)

Currently we use the newest version of acronis back up and recovery (10) on our servers. I have made a .tib file from a server (which has two drives). I've taken the .tib (within Acronis) and used "Restore to a virtual machine" for vmware, and for vpc. The results are the same... blue screen of death.

I've tried importing/converting/etc - I've done everything I can. I know I can very likley get the hal/drivers/etc to make it work, but I want a solution that doesn't require extra work. (IE: If all of our servers were physically destroyed I can take all of the tibs and easily restore them into vmachines.)

I hope this makes sense. I've tried everything I can find on google/bing. I just can't get past the blue screen on boot.


PS (I tried to use Acronis Home image with plus pack for the universal restore - it wont let me do this because it is a server - is there a different version I should have?)
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coolsport00Commented:
Hi "jkosse"...have you tried using VMware's vCenter Converter Standaolone tool to convert that .tib image to a VM?
https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/?p=converter&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_enUS338US338&q=vCenter%20converter

According to pg. 21 of the User's Manual (http://www.vmware.com/pdf/converter_standalone_guide401.pdf), you can use that tool to convert a .tib image to VM. Give a shot and let me know.

Regards,
~coolsport00
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
Yes I've tried that. Same result. The vmdks that both the converter and my server application result in the same manor.

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coolsport00Commented:
Hmm...have you stopped all process/services that 'can' be stopped, then make the image? Have you tried just converting the server from the Converter tool? Is that what you meant above there, or are you saying that you made the image, then used Converter to convert the image with the same result?
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
Yes to your last line.(coolsport) Currently we take nightly images of select servers and store the .tibs. We want the ability to restore these tibs as a virtual machine (vmware).

Acronis will make the entire virtual machine for us, it just does not boot correctly.
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coolsport00Commented:
OK...so from your orig post, you mention that "If all of our servers were physically destroyed I can take all of the tibs and easily restore them into vmachines." So, my next question is, based off that sentence, are you able to convert any of your physical servers directly using the Converter tool and have the VM work (boot up correctly)? If so, then my next question for you is why don't you just run a virtual infrastructure?

Backup/restore of VMs is (in my opinion) fairly quick and seamless using tools such as Veeam Backup & Replication or vRanger (tho I don't use that one)? I know I'm going outside the bounds of what you're originally wanting, but thought I'd shoot out another idea?

~coolsport00
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noxchoGlobal Support CoordinatorCommented:
Give chance to this tool: https://www.paragon-software.com/business/vm-corporate/
It will do what you need for sure.
It will create virtual image of the physical machine without need to convert the backup image. Simply connect the vhd to VPC orVmware image to VMware machine and get it booting.

I guess you get 7b BSOD message currently, am I right?
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
Coolsport - No I haven't tried that. I would like to go to a virtual infrastructure, but it's not my call to make.

Noxcho: Yes 7b BSOD.

Although your software looks great, Acronis has the feature to "Restore to virtual machine". I don't want to buy more software to do what Acronis is suppose to already do.
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
From what I am gathering is that the correct drivers are not being loaded for the hard drive. Acronis is suppose to auto-detect the guest operating system and inject them, but it doesn't seem to be doing that.

I've been attempting this with an XP (sp2) machine, as well as a Windows server 2003 machine.
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noxchoGlobal Support CoordinatorCommented:
Acronis does not adjust the OS to new hardware - which is vmware controller. 7b BSOD is exact sign of incompatibility with hardware. I have seen this problem already with different P2V tools and Paragon did its work as it should do.
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noxchoGlobal Support CoordinatorCommented:
BTW, if you own Universal Restore then you can try to adjust the OS to new environment by injecting drivers. But this is just jumping through fire ring =)))) When you can do this automatically.
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coolsport00Commented:
Dang technology! You'd think it would work as advertised! :P
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noxchoGlobal Support CoordinatorCommented:
Someone shout at each corder We work! We can!
And another one does no shout but its technology works =))))
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
If I do this with a .tib created from a workstation that has an IDE hard drive - they work WONDERFULLY. However when I try to restore a system that uses SCSI... it blue screens.

Does anyone know how to make these VMwares work with SCSI interfaces?
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noxchoGlobal Support CoordinatorCommented:
What exact tool do you have? Backup & Recovery by Acronis or True Image?
I tested the TI and it DOES NOT DO what it says should do.
And B&R does all it should do properly.
You have now choice:
Either purchase Acronis B&R or Paragon Virtualization Manager 2010. Both of these should work for you. Up to you to decide.
With True Image you will not work with SCSI devices.
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
Acronis Backup and Recovery 10 Advanced Server is what I am using to get the .tib, and I'm using it to conver the tib into a virtual machine.

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noxchoGlobal Support CoordinatorCommented:
Hmm, that is really strange then. What did Acronis support say?
Can you try the following just for test. I found out that Drive Backup 10 Server Edition has P2V feature. Can you download its trial version and use it to P2V the partition? Does it boot from them?
If no then I can forward your logs to support representative I am in contact with and find out what could be the cause of the problem.
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
I am still unable to get these guys to boot up. I've tried to inject the correct drivers using the Ultimate-P2V pdf guide to no avail.
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noxchoGlobal Support CoordinatorCommented:
Try to use virtualization by Paragon. Just from trial version of Paragon Drive Backup 10 Server.
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
Forgive my ignorance of Paragon's software, but will that software convert an existing .tib backup to vmware (or vpc)?
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noxchoGlobal Support CoordinatorCommented:
No. You need either convert the physical drive to vmware or restore .tib file to any physical partition and convert it via P2V wizard to vmdk file using Paragon.
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
Then Paragon's software is not the solution that will fit our needs. It may help us with a few other issues which I am going to look into, but not for this issue. Thank you for your help.
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noxchoGlobal Support CoordinatorCommented:
Ok.
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
Just an update. The vmware engineers are also stumped. They are recreating my environment, and giving it a try themselves.
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coolsport00Commented:
THanks for the update; well, if you're gonna have an issue, it might as well be a "doozy"!!! :P hahaha

When they are finished resolving this for you, I highly recommend placing the 'answer' here to assist others experiencing this issue, if you don't mind doing so?

~coolsport00
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
Will do. Thank you for your help!
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coolsport00Commented:
No prob...sorry we couldn't resolve it for you, but we tried! :(

~coolsport00
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jkosseAuthor Commented:
The vmware engineers have setup a complete replica of the servers we use, and installed our version of Acronis. They took the .tib and received the same issues.

The server version of Acronis is not compatible, nor supported by vmware at this time. It however sounds like they are already working on including it.

Thank you for the help, guys!
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coolsport00Commented:
Thank you for the additional 'solution' post "jkosse" :)
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