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Groupwise standalone setup problem

I've downloaded and run setup.exe for Groupwise 8.0.1 (evaluation).  When I try to run for the first time, it tells me it is trying to locate the serve.  I just want to run this client as a standalone so that I can use it with POP3/SMTP, etc, as I test integration with my other main program (which needs to interface with GW).

Can someone direct me to the correct file to download and install?  According to Novell's pdf instructions, I should have had the option to simply select POP3, but that wasn't the case.  My assumption then is that I downloaded the wrong install file.
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steveoskhCommented:
The simple answer (even if you installed the client) is that if you want to develop and test integrations you will need more than just the client.  You will need the server also.

I don't have experience with GW 8 but your experience appears to be the same as with older versions.   The GroupWise client needs to contact a GroupWise server the first time.
One technique used by companies moving away from GroupWise is to archive old mail rather than move it to the new system.  They then use the client in offline mode to access the archive.  They can shutdown the server and the clients still work, until they need to install the client on a new machine.  Without the server it will not install.

I am no expert on this aspect of it, but I suspect it is because of security features.  GroupWise client is a proprietary client for GroupWise server.  It is not a generic client that can be used for any email service.   The security, access, features all derive from the connection to a GroupWise server and the settings setup by the administrator of that GroupWise system.  

For example, when I setup a GroupWise user, I define what they can and can not do as a user.  MAPI, POP3, what gateways, Full client only or web access.  When the client is installed it needs to know what server is going to give it its marching orders because when you login to the client it needs to authenticate you against something.

You might be able to use one of the Hosted GroupWise services.  A web search for hosted groupwise should give you a list of options.
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bjones8888Author Commented:
Wow.  That hosted GW option sounds brilliant!  I'm checking into it, but will award you the points in the meanwhile.  Certainly don't want to install a GW server on my development machine if I can avoid it.
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ZENandEmailguyCommented:
Here is how to do what I think you're wanting to do:

1) Install the GW client as you've done.
2) Access the properties of the icon created on your desktop and add "/@u-?" (without quotes) to the end of the target line where you see c:\blah\blah\grpwise.exe (be sure to put a space after the .exe).  This will force the client to launch and give you the login screen where you can specify a path to a remote mailbox.
3) Before you do step 2, create a directory on your C:\ drive where you want the remote mailbox created.
4) Put the path to the remote mailbox in the bottom box of the login you see from step 2
5) The client will launch with a ??? username and start a wizard where you can specify the type of account you want (GroupWise, POP, IMAP).  If you choose POP or IMAP, you'll need all of the details to connect, just like you would if you were using Outlook Express or another client.

Hope this helps...

Scott
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bjones8888Author Commented:
ZENandEmailguy: this technically answers my question, but according to steveoskh, I didn't realize that for what I need to do, I'm truly going to need the GW server anyway.  But very good information to know.  Sorry I've already awarded the points, I'd at least have given you partial, since this is good information for others to know in researching this topic at a later date.
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ZENandEmailguyCommented:
Ironically one of the engineers who does project work for my company is launching a hosted GroupWise solution. I'm building all of the GW components and he is building all of the infrastructure and Linux servers
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bjones8888Author Commented:
I've spoken with one hosting company, but they said that to give me the ability to do what I want on the client side (API calls to the GW server), I would have to be given rights that would make other clients' information vulnerable, unless they provided me with a dedicated (optionally virtual) server. Out of my price range for the ongoing costs - especially since it would only be for development purposes.

GW is inexpensive enough for a single license, and I can run the server on a virtual machine on my own development environment, so I believe that's the route I'll go.
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steveoskhCommented:
bjones8888.  I don't have a problem if you want to open and change points awarded.  At one time Novell had virtual server images that you could download for demo or trial.  Not sure if they are still available or not.
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