preserve settings for Opera when i restore Windows partition
I'm using Image for DOS as an operating system backup/restore and i've just installed Opera in Windows 7.
I'm thinking to re-install Opera to another partition, data partition, that do not suffer any restoration when i restore the OS partition.
http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/313/
"If your system does not support multiple users or you chose to not install Opera with separate user settings, all files and directories are located in the profile directory..."
I'm the only user so that i'll install as a uniqe user, settings to the profile directory.
I'd like to know if this will preserve all Opera settings and won't cause problems to it when i'll restore the OS partition from a previous backup.
(i'm asking this also because i did this type of installation under w2k pro and have lost, once or twice, part of the notes i had; i had many, is there a max number?)
I'm thinking to re-install Opera to another partition, data partition, that do not suffer any restoration when i restore the OS partition.
http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/313/
"If your system does not support multiple users or you chose to not install Opera with separate user settings, all files and directories are located in the profile directory..."
I'm the only user so that i'll install as a uniqe user, settings to the profile directory.
I'd like to know if this will preserve all Opera settings and won't cause problems to it when i'll restore the OS partition from a previous backup.
(i'm asking this also because i did this type of installation under w2k pro and have lost, once or twice, part of the notes i had; i had many, is there a max number?)
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>What settings other than Notes do you wish to preserve?
>>bookmarks, sessions...
>Have you used Opera Link? It saves everything I care about, Bookmarks and Speed Dial, in addition to Personal Bar, Typed History, Notes, and Searches.
>>i know, it seems cool and also needs to be tested.
>In Opera, click the circular arrow button in the left of the status bar; or click the big, red O button in the top left and select Synchronize Opera.
>>does it allow the direction?
internet->computer
computer->internet
>Install Opera on a new machine + sign in to Opera Link = DONE! :-)
>>already done =:)
I'd also like to install Opera on another partition, to not backup/restore merely.
For another topic, has Yahoo mess something similar or can its archive path be set to elswhere?
>>bookmarks, sessions...
>Have you used Opera Link? It saves everything I care about, Bookmarks and Speed Dial, in addition to Personal Bar, Typed History, Notes, and Searches.
>>i know, it seems cool and also needs to be tested.
>In Opera, click the circular arrow button in the left of the status bar; or click the big, red O button in the top left and select Synchronize Opera.
>>does it allow the direction?
internet->computer
computer->internet
>Install Opera on a new machine + sign in to Opera Link = DONE! :-)
>>already done =:)
I'd also like to install Opera on another partition, to not backup/restore merely.
For another topic, has Yahoo mess something similar or can its archive path be set to elswhere?
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You can manage your Opera Link Bookmarks, Note, and Speed Dial on your Opera Link page, as well. Get there using the same methods I described in my first post.
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>You want to install Opera on another partition?
>>Yes but i need to be sure Opera does not place any file or any data on the system partition too, because when i restore the system partition from a previous backup, some of Opera files might be altered.
The same for Yahoo messenger, when i restore the system partition chat archive is gone.
>I have Opera Link working on about 10 different boxes.
>>and you are sure you still have all data intact, bookmarks and notes? =:)
It shoould be a by date syncronisation, newer files to replace the old ones whereever they'd be, on server or on box, if not so bad things could happen. =:)
Think you erase a bookmark you don't need on box1 then later start only box2, what happen.
It says here http://www.opera.com/link/start/
"The first time you use Opera Link, Opera synchronizes your browser data to an online server. Any change you make in your browser is also reflected on this server. When you log into Opera Link with a second Opera Browser, all browser data from the online storage is merged with the browser data already in the new browser. If you delete a bookmark in the second Opera browser, this bookmark will also automatically be deleted on the online server and all copies of Opera which are logged in to this Opera Link account."
...need to be verified
>>Yes but i need to be sure Opera does not place any file or any data on the system partition too, because when i restore the system partition from a previous backup, some of Opera files might be altered.
The same for Yahoo messenger, when i restore the system partition chat archive is gone.
>I have Opera Link working on about 10 different boxes.
>>and you are sure you still have all data intact, bookmarks and notes? =:)
It shoould be a by date syncronisation, newer files to replace the old ones whereever they'd be, on server or on box, if not so bad things could happen. =:)
Think you erase a bookmark you don't need on box1 then later start only box2, what happen.
It says here http://www.opera.com/link/start/
"The first time you use Opera Link, Opera synchronizes your browser data to an online server. Any change you make in your browser is also reflected on this server. When you log into Opera Link with a second Opera Browser, all browser data from the online storage is merged with the browser data already in the new browser. If you delete a bookmark in the second Opera browser, this bookmark will also automatically be deleted on the online server and all copies of Opera which are logged in to this Opera Link account."
...need to be verified
Point 1. The only data I care about is what is "saved" using Opera LInk (OL). If I have to restore the system/boot/Windows partition, I restore it, download and install Opera, sign in to OL; and I am back in business. I do not care where anything is installed or stored. You can make backups of some data such as bookmarks and newsfeeds by exporting them, and you can send notes as e-mails.
Point 2. I am not sure about Yahoo! Messenger. I do not use it and do not know where anything is installed or stored.
Point 3. The sync is apparently by timestamp. Changes on box1 are timestamped and synced. box2 is synced to changes the next time it hits the OL server. IOW, if you delete a bookmark on box1, the next time box2 hits the OL server, that bookmark is deleted from box2.
Point 4. I completely agree with the behavior described. It happens just like that. I thought I had said this earlier; but in reading back, I apparently did not: Get your first box the way you like it and sync. This will upload your setup to OL. On every box after the first, delete everything you do not want "merged". In Bookmarks, I delete everything but the Trash can.
Lee
Point 2. I am not sure about Yahoo! Messenger. I do not use it and do not know where anything is installed or stored.
Point 3. The sync is apparently by timestamp. Changes on box1 are timestamped and synced. box2 is synced to changes the next time it hits the OL server. IOW, if you delete a bookmark on box1, the next time box2 hits the OL server, that bookmark is deleted from box2.
Point 4. I completely agree with the behavior described. It happens just like that. I thought I had said this earlier; but in reading back, I apparently did not: Get your first box the way you like it and sync. This will upload your setup to OL. On every box after the first, delete everything you do not want "merged". In Bookmarks, I delete everything but the Trash can.
Lee
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Made me a mess here Opera link.
Yes. :-) It took me a couple of tries to understand what is going on. I learned that when I first sit down at a new box to include in my OL family do this:
Re: "Made me a mess" Look at it as a good checking and purging opportunity. ;-)
Lee
- Download and install latest Opera
- Delete all the stock bookmarks
- Log in to OL
Re: "Made me a mess" Look at it as a good checking and purging opportunity. ;-)
Lee
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I'm testing with 3 boxes and Opera 10.50 and 10.51 from one old Opera, i think it is ok.
So i'm aware now how it works only it can't work well - and i don't know why sometimes or with certain bookmarks - when more than one box is linked.
No, when you start a new box it just merges all, you don't loose anyhing but their order, it does not make a new folder for the new ones.
The issue takes place when i have many bookmarks and more than one box started and linked, and if i delete some. Then it does the same on the other box only that at the next syncronisation Opera undo the process; if i also empty recycle, no name and no url bookmarks will be created instead. Same when i add bookmarks, they will be deleted at the next sync.
It seems it works ok if you always have a single box linked when you alter something - close other boxes' Opera. When you start one, it does not merge anything, just syncs from the server.
>OL merges them into your server version
>>i do not understand... server version... what happend?
>Re: "Made me a mess" Look at it as a good checking and purging opportunity. ;-)
>>lol, i have backups and testing backups =:)
just don't know why this .... stays here
http://www.opera.com/link/start/
"If you delete a bookmark in the second Opera browser, this bookmark will also automatically be deleted on the online server and all copies of Opera which are logged in to this Opera Link account."
So i'm aware now how it works only it can't work well - and i don't know why sometimes or with certain bookmarks - when more than one box is linked.
No, when you start a new box it just merges all, you don't loose anyhing but their order, it does not make a new folder for the new ones.
The issue takes place when i have many bookmarks and more than one box started and linked, and if i delete some. Then it does the same on the other box only that at the next syncronisation Opera undo the process; if i also empty recycle, no name and no url bookmarks will be created instead. Same when i add bookmarks, they will be deleted at the next sync.
It seems it works ok if you always have a single box linked when you alter something - close other boxes' Opera. When you start one, it does not merge anything, just syncs from the server.
>OL merges them into your server version
>>i do not understand... server version... what happend?
>Re: "Made me a mess" Look at it as a good checking and purging opportunity. ;-)
>>lol, i have backups and testing backups =:)
just don't know why this .... stays here
http://www.opera.com/link/start/
"If you delete a bookmark in the second Opera browser, this bookmark will also automatically be deleted on the online server and all copies of Opera which are logged in to this Opera Link account."
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if it doesn't work ok all cases... times.
I typically do not have multiple Opera boxes concurrently logged in to OL. Also, I do not add, change, move, or delete my bookmarks that much now. Some, yes. Lots and lots, no. I guess you could say I have reached a steady-state. :-) OL plays nicer this way.
You could try getting most of your stuff up to the OL server and organizing it there. On each box, blow away everything and download the cleaned up data from the server on next log in.
I think once you get everything steady, the benefits of syncing bookmarks, notes, and typed history using the built-in and free OL system will far outweigh any negatives. One just needs to learn and be constantly aware of the OL nuances.
Re: "if it doesn't work ok all cases... times."
I really have not noticed any issues.
Lee
You could try getting most of your stuff up to the OL server and organizing it there. On each box, blow away everything and download the cleaned up data from the server on next log in.
I think once you get everything steady, the benefits of syncing bookmarks, notes, and typed history using the built-in and free OL system will far outweigh any negatives. One just needs to learn and be constantly aware of the OL nuances.
Re: "if it doesn't work ok all cases... times."
I really have not noticed any issues.
Lee
I know I side-tracked your original questions of Opera installation/restore settings; but OL works so well for my needs, and it looked like it could benefit yours as well. As I said above, I have about 10 boxes synced through OL. If OL or something just as easy did *not* exist, I would probably not use Opera. The sync of bookmarks would be much too cumbersome. I would probably go back to Firefox and Xmarks. :-)
We can return to your original request if OL does not serve your needs.
Lee
We can return to your original request if OL does not serve your needs.
Lee
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> If you do not delete the stock bookmarks, OL merges them into your server
>>yes i know what you meant now, and i think it's no way to activate OL wo merging, which is ok.
OL also was planned to use.
My original request about registry alteration nobody but Opera suport can answer but you gave me the clue.
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=448511
like to install it on another partition and it's no problem doing so.
I did that before but now it's another person who does not complain....... Thanks
>>yes i know what you meant now, and i think it's no way to activate OL wo merging, which is ok.
OL also was planned to use.
My original request about registry alteration nobody but Opera suport can answer but you gave me the clue.
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=448511
like to install it on another partition and it's no problem doing so.
I did that before but now it's another person who does not complain....... Thanks
Have you used Opera Link? It saves everything I care about, Bookmarks and Speed Dial, in addition to Personal Bar, Typed History, Notes, and Searches.
In Opera, click the circular arrow button in the left of the status bar; or click the big, red O button in the top left and select Synchronize Opera.
Install Opera on a new machine + sign in to Opera Link = DONE! :-)
Lee