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i have a home network where 5 computers share one internet line.

on a good day we have 50 mbit download and 1.5 mbit upload
I have a D LINK DIR - 165 router.
one of the users on the network is using a P2P video program, that uses all the upload bandwidth.

i cant stop this user using this program. i have tryed to install a bandwith shaper on her P.c wich worked on all the other computers in the house but sadly not on hers.
 her OS was XP and the rest where vista and 7
 i have herd that this P2p program switches ports a lot so cant be blocked by closing ports. maby this is why the shaper did not work on her computer.

this p2p program is boging down the hole net. how can i share the bandwith out between the 5 computers so people cant be over greedy.

i have tryed using QOS in the router page. it seems my router only alaws me to change the uplink to the router and not to individual computers. so am stuck with slow internet. with jolty 500 pings every other second. - (i have asked for more upload from my ISP but they say its allready max they can give)
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Your router does not look to support QoS or throttling traffic for specific users or traffic types. the best you can do is website filtering. this will allow you to stop the user from accessing specific web sites.

You are correct with the p2p programs. they either use a random port or tunnel all traffic out port 80 making it look like web traffic. More advanced routers will be able to control this traffic but your basic SOHO router will not.

Sorry.

If you have control of the users computer I would suggest removing their admin rights and only give them user permissions. this will stop them from installing software. You can then uninstall all unwanted applications they are using.
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one thing i can do is put my p.c behind the modem but infront of the router and set MY p.c to share the conection from the modem to the router. then limit the uplink speed for the router to 1mbit (max upload we get is 1.5mbit) this would make my computer allwas get the 0.5mbit.

but the cable line runs into the living room which is far away from my room.

is there a adapter that can wirlessly conect my p.c to the modem in the living room so i can do it with out cables. i could be just dreaming here but maby there is a adpter that could do this? ethernet to wirless then back to ethernet :P
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i do have a net cable coming in to my room but its faulty thats why am stuck with the modem and router in the living room
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"is there a adapter that can wirlessly conect my p.c to the modem in the  living room so i can do it with out cables. i could be just dreaming  here but maby there is a adpter that could do this? ethernet to wirless  then back to ethernet :P"

Yeah its is called an access point. They are usually a little cheaper than a router. In my opinion this setup would be sketchy and overly complicate the situation.

My suggestion would be to purchase a SOHO firewall. they can get a little expensive but you can find a used Cisco Pix 501 on ebay for around $100. this will allow you to block or limit traffic based on the application type.

here is a guide that shows how to do this with a PIX.
http://www.ciscocatalyst.info/en/US/products/hw/vpndevc/ps2030/products_tech_note09186a00801e419a.shtml
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well i took 10 mins oopening up the box in my room that the cable net wire goes in to. i could see that a cable as bent and not making a true conection to the unit . so now i have a working line in to my room.

i have tested the method i wrote about above.

modem -- my pc -- wifi router  

i set the uplink limit on the router and yes its working or at least my p.c gets a ok amount of upload bandwidth.

but now i have the problem of: if i turn my p.c off the conection to the router willl die and the net will go down to the others in my house.

i was thinking abouot what you said about the access point.

can i do a set up like this to stop the net going down when i turn my p.c off:


modem -- access point -----my p.c
                        |
                        |
                        |
*************wifi router***************  

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i just tred this with a old spare router:
 
modem -- router -----my p.c
                        |
                        |
                        |
*************wifi router***************  

the first router did not send the net to the other router unless its in access point mode. but i cant alaw the second router to be in AP mode becasue then i can no longer set a uplink limit on it.
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yeah you can setup that way but the issue you are running into with the access-point mode i guessing are limitations of the router.

You should be able to connect the wifi router to the first router without an issue. You will just need to use a seperate IP subnet for those devices that connect to the wifi router so:

modem -- router -----my p.c
                        | (10.0.0.0/24)
                         |
                        |
*************wifi  router***************  
                (192.168.0.0/24)

So your PC and the wifi router will get DHCP address in the 10.0.0.0 range (or whatever you have configured) and the wifi router will pass out DHCP addresses in the 192.168.0.0 range.
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for the network i will be using two D link routers dir - 615 so they will both have the same user interface, so this will be easyer to setup for me. but i have never set up a IP subnet

so now i am configuring the wifi router that will be the one with the uplink limit on it.

i have got to the page to change the settings here is a screen shot:

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1083/routerq.jpg

so i just change the bit where it saysdefault subnet mask?
or is it the address range part?

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You will change the address range. the subnet mask you can leave the same. This changes the address range that is used for devices that connects to this router.
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what sould i change the address range to?
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Really it dosent matter but it is best practice to use a private address range which are:

10.x.x.x
172.16.x.x - 172.31.x.x
192.168.x.x

Just make sure you are not using the same range as your other router uses.

so for example if it is using 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 then use 10.0.100.0 255.255.255.0


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thx a lot am all hooked up now :)
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