How to scan to JPG from Dell 1600n or 1815n MPF?

We have a Dell 1600n and a Dell 1815n Mult- Function Printer.  These devices are capable of B&W scanning from Flatbed or document feeder.  USB and Network scanning via the "Dell Network Scan manager" works well, but is limited to scanning to TIFF or PDF format.

I have a number of old B&W photographs that I would like to scan to JPG.  Is anyone aware of software that can be used to capture JPG from these printer/scanners?

Thanks.
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MereteCommented:
scan them off in the format of this scanner then use paintshop pro to convert to jpeg.
Or even paint just import the supported images.
If they are in a PDF you can use the print screen and then paste into paint or paintshop pro using the cutting tool remove the outer edges for a clean image and save as jpeg
import the supported images into these as well then save as
Ifran viewer
http://www.irfanview.com/
Nero image viewer if you have nero
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nobusCommented:
can you scan from paint?>file>import from scanner?
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wyliecoyoteukIT directorCommented:
Scanning Monochrome images in jpeg is not really a good idea, as jpeg is too lossy a compression system, and is really best suited to colour images, which is why many mono scanners do not use it.

TIFF uses a different compression system.

Best idea is to scan in TIFF, then load into a photo editor and make a jpeg copy, as suggested above.
 That way you have the original TIFF file, and you can use or edit  the jpeg, knowing that you have a good quality backup.
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okacsAuthor Commented:
@ nobus - No, that option to scan in MS Paint is grayed out.

@ others - I thought of that too.  But it would result is a bit of loss in resolution I think, plus it would mean several extra steps per photo when I am looking to simplify  the process.  :)

I have a couple boxes full of these old pics to scan in various sizes, and they are all very delicate.  They are all original prints that my Grandfather processed in the Naval Photo-lab from back in WWII.

Is there no way to scan directly to a photo format from this device?  Or maybe a way to BATCH convert the hundreds of TIFFs in a folder to JPGs all at once?

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wyliecoyoteukIT directorCommented:
As I said, jpeg is not a good format for mono images. because it is a lossy compression system, it discards information, and mono images do not have the level of redundant information that a colour image has, so you will get minimal reduction in file size, and a poorer image. That is why many mono scanners do not offer it.
Is there some particular reason that you want to use it?
TIFF, which is a lossless compression system, will give you far better images, and probably a smaller file size with no loss of quality.

Photoshop and GIMP will both batch process files.
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wyliecoyoteukIT directorCommented:
Oh, and by the way, TIFF is a photo format.
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okacsAuthor Commented:

I wanted to be able to place them in a photo gallery on a website.  I'd like the pics as large (visually) as I can display them in good resolution, and as small in KB so they download fast.  It is my understanding that JPG is the best way to do this.  Again I want to make this as easy and quick a task as I can - There are hundreds of photos, and unfortunately I have ZERO spare time to do this.  :(

http://www.zyworld.com/webphoto/pages/print.htm

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MereteCommented:
If you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat, not just the free Acrobat Reader, you can extract individual images or all images as well as text from a PDF and export in various formats such as EPS, JPG, TIFF.
If you have no time to spend on this editing images etc try photobucket and create web albums
http://photobucket.com/
Supported file types:
•Images – gif, jpg, jpeg, png, bmp. Photobucket converts bmp files, which are not appropriate for the Internet, to jpg files, which are. The Image Editor does not retain the animation in animated .gif files.
•Videos – 3g2, 3gp, 3gp2, 3gpp, 3p, asf, avi, divx, dv, dvx, flv, gif, moov, mov, mp4, mpeg4, mpg4, mpe, mpeg, mpg, qt, wmv, xvid, rm. All video files are converted to Flash Video (flv) format when you upload them.
http://pic.pbsrc.com/help/PhotobucketHelp.htm
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okacsAuthor Commented:

Yes, I was trying to get away from having to do all that editing.  Photobucket eh?  I'll have to give them a look-see.

Thanks.
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Lotek26Commented:
What you think is a fault is by design.

When scanner software or MFP device panels state "B&W" or "Black and White" it is referring to copier or text mode, not photos. B&W scanning will save as very small, highly compressed, 1-bit bitonal/monochrome images. TIFF is the industry standard for that type of scan. Both TIFF and PDF are container-type formats that support bitonal images and multiple pages in a single document, so that is why they are commonplace for B&W scanning.

JPEG is an 8-bit or higher rasterized/bitmap-only format not capable of storing bitonal images so that is why it is not an option in B&W scan modes. You need to check your documentation for Grayscale, Color, or Custom scan modes. On your Dell Preferences or Printer Settings pages if you select Color or Grayscale as your Color/Scan Type instead of B&W, you may find JPEG as an available format to save as.

Maybe you haven't fully installed your Dell software? You will want to use the TWAIN or WIA driver provided for most flexibility. That provides a Dell scanner interface that will let you save in the Dell formats available or automatically import the image into whatever photo editor your computer has on it. From there, you can save in any format that the editor itself supports.

I don't know what kind of computer you have but if you don't have a separate editor installed, just use the built-in Windows Fax and Scan, or Picture and Fax Viewer, or MS Photo Editor (in Office). They all let you seamlessly save a grayscale or color scan as JPEG, TIFF, BMP, and other formats.

You don't have to edit the image. You just use the editor as the path to your more advanced SAVE AS options. Open the editor. Different editors call the feature different things but it is usually available on the Tool Bar or from the File menu. Some will call it Import, or Acquire, or Scan, or Batch.

Ed Hamrick's VueScan software might be the only one that will have a front-end that supports your Dells directly.
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Lotek26Commented:
Wait... sorry. It's not Picture and Fax Viewer. It's called Scanner and Camera Wizard in Windows XP.
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Lotek26Commented:
I just saw your later comment about Batch conversion.

Merete mentioned IrfanView.

IrfanView and the companion IrfanView Plug-ins makes an awesome little package if all you need is a single layer editor with basic paint and image adjustment features. It is very fast and includes powerful batch conversion features. I've used it in my work and had it installed on every computer I've had since discovering it in the late 1990's.
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MereteCommented:
I find the scanners have software to manage scanning.
Take my Cannon scanner, the software that comes with is called  MP Navigator.
It scans to either PDF or Jpeg.
On the actual scanner I just click on the Black and White tab.
So check the software that comes with your DEL Scanner.
ScanSoft   PaperPort

Looking at your scanner
Dell 1815n Mult- Function Printer according to the technical specs it should be saving to jpeg.
The Dell 1815dn is an inexpensive monochrome laser multifunction ... you can scan a document to your networked computer as a JPEG, a TIFF, or a PDF
Look right to the Bottom of the  Editors Review
http://reviews.cnet.com/multifunction-devices/dell-1815dn/4505-3181_7-31890969.html?tag=rvwBody#reviewPage1
http://reviews.cnet.com/multifunction-devices/dell-1815dn/4505-3181_7-31890969-2.html
I'd look in the settings of the scanner navigator.
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MereteCommented:
okacs I just read your comment here>I wanted to be able to place them in a photo gallery on a website.
 I'd like the pics as large (visually) as I can display them in good resolution, and as small in KB so they download fast
 I Use VSO Image resizer for windows 7
You can do this as well to resize the tiff for the web

Free Image Resizer – Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP SP2, 32bits or 64bits
The Light Image Resizer is the ideal easy to use free resize photo software. Batch resize photos easily
http://www.obviousidea.com/windows-software/light-image-resizer/
If it is a trial just ignore the message when you open it and continue to use it.
To batch resize just hight light the images in the folder
say 15 at a time then r/click this lot and click on vso image resizer
I save the resized images to the same folder, the new will have the video scale extension.
It adds vso image resizer r/click extension

vso-image-resizer.jpg
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okacsAuthor Commented:
Thanks to everyone.
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MereteCommented:
You are welcome okacs glad we could assist in some way.
All the Best
Merete
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