Query about Nvidia Graphics Card Series.

Dear All,

Hi There! This is Apoorva from Mumbai. Off lately, I am planning to buy a new Graphics Card for my system since my current Graphics Card Nvidia 7300LE is now quiet older. I had purchased it 3 yrs back and therefore would now like to replace it with the one which has an HDMI connection as I have recently purchased new LCD Monitor Benq G2420HD which has an HDMI connection input to it.

Now while going through Nvidia India's website to check out for the available products at this link: http://www.nvidia.co.in/object/geforce_family_in.html, I have been extremely confused between the numbers of series Nvidia has to offer and therefore e'm wondering that which series turns out to be the best?

So, my questions here are:

Q1. What are the differences between 8, 9 & 200 series?

Q2. Is it that if I move up ahead in the series, the product's quality and performance equally starts getting better? E.g. If I would first be planning to pick up a product from 8 or 9 series but then later decide to pick up this Nvidia Geforce GT 220 DDR3 product from 200 series, so is it that none of the Nvidia products under 8 & 9 series would match the capabilities of this product?

Q3. I am using an Asrock motherboard, Model: 945G-DVI which has a 16x PCIe slot so will this Nvidia Graphics card go along with this slot, I mean will the motherboard & this 16xPCIe slot accept and recognize this Nvidia Geforce GT 220 DDR3 Graphics card?
The link to my motherboard is:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...CONROE945G-DVI

Request you to kindly visit that link above to closely study the specs for my motherboard.

My main purpose of buying a Benq G2420HD LCD Monitor was b'coz I wanted to play good games and to watch movies especially Action movies. So, will this Graphics Card give best quality and performance for these 2 purposes specified? And does it suffer from any heating issue?


Kindly help me out please......

Regards,
Apoorva.
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lee555J5Commented:
The number series are product generations. In your list (8, 9, 200), 8 is the oldest; and it stands for 8400, 8600, and 8800 series products with different flavors such as GT, GTS, and GTX. The same applies to the 9 series.
nVidia started the next generation with 200, examples include 210, 220, 230, 240, 250, etc. The 300 series is only available in pre-built (OEM) systems. The 400 series is brand new and is, therefore, the most capable and expensive.
All that said, I highly recommend at least a 200 series card--very capable, HDMI, and priced very nicely now that the 400 series is coming out. If you have the money and want the power, go for the 400 series--they start at $350 US.
Personally, I just bought this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261062 this week for my home to replace an 8800GT. I do not have any heat issues with mine.
Lee
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lee555J5Commented:
Your motherboard link is broken.
Lee
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Serge FournierAnalyst ProgrammerCommented:
i replaced my 8800gt with a gts250 (130$ can)

the gts 250, althought, is just an overclocked 8800 gt chipset

everything is a little bit faster and run fine for a low price (worldofwarcraft etc)
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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:
Hey Lee,

As I checked on Nvidia India’s website at this link: http://www.nvidia.co.in/object/product_geforce_gts_250_in.html ,

I see that this card doesn’t offer VGA & HDMI connection but it offers 2 DVI connection so is that what your card has too b’coz as I saw the product on that link you provided, the picture shows 3 inputs which is not the case with the original product as shown on Nvidia India’s website. So, if you could kindly clarify the same please?

Now, I have found out that the following companies manufacture Nvidia Graphics Card namely:
1. XFX  2. ASUS  3. PALIT

Why is it that Nvidia given their name to the product but doesn’t manufacture it themselves? Instead there are others manufacturing cards for Nvidia such as XFX, ASUS & PALIT?

Now, I am planning to go ahead with Asus NVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1 GB DDR3 PCI-E Card as mentioned at this link:

http://cgi.ebay.in/Asus-NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-220-1-GB-DDR3-PCI-E-Card_W0QQitemZ370359650211QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_203?hash=item563b27c7a3

b’coz it carries 3yrs Manufacturer’s warranty as opposed to XFX & PALIT that offers 2 yrs Warranty.
Is ASUS better than XFX & PALIT? For PALIT, I’ll say that I had worse experience during my Nvidia Card replacement.

I had to face serious harassments from this company - PALIT. Anyhow, with immense difficulty, I got my Nvidia 7300LE Graphics card replacement done.

Secondly, I my system has Cooler Master's Power Supply, Model: eXtreme Power Plus 460W
(RS-460-PCAR-A3)

I request you to kindly visit the below link to get an understanding of the complete Specs of my Power Supply:

http://in.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?language=in&act=detail&tbcate=2259&id=4174

Under specs, for your needed information, there's one connector mentioned as: PCI-E 6 Pin x 1

Will this Power Supply work with Nvidia Geforce GT 220 DDR3 Graphics Card even though the PCI-E power connector has 6 Pin and I am not sure what the PIN requirement is for this GT 220 Card?

My system specs:
OS: Windows XP SP3, Windows 7
Processor: Intel Dual Core 3 Ghz (64-bit Supported)
Motherboard: Asrock 945G-DVI
RAM: 3GB DDR2
HDD: 250 GB WDC SATA II & WDC 160 GB SATAII
Monitor: Benq G2420HD (VGA, DVI & HDMI)
Sound: Onboard 7.1 Realtek

And here’s the link to my Asrock Motherboard:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=CONROE945G-DVI

And what is the difference with GT, GTS & GTX? Is it a part of 200 series as well?

Thanks for your time, I know my questions asked are too many…but appreciate for your efforts.

Kindly reply…

Regards,
Apoorva.
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nobusCommented:
you can use a power calculator to check if it's up to par : http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
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lee555J5Commented:
My card has 3 external connections--1 HDMI, 1 DVI-D, 1 VGA D-SUB.
nVidia makes the GPU, the graphics processor. Companies such as XFX, PNY, ASUS, Palit, etc., package nVidia's GPU into the card we buy.
There can be *slight* performance differences between the cards using the same GPUs, but not enough for me to worry about. Like you, I think price, warranty, and customer service are more important. I have had ASUS stuff before, and I do not think you will be disappointed.
The 6-pin power connector is exactly what you need. The 460W PSU should be fine for your system. I would not go any smaller, but I would not go bigger than 550W because a powerful, yet underloaded, PSU is inefficient.
GT, GTS, and GTX are in order of increasing power (and price) based on hardware and clock speed specs.
Lee
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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:
Hey Lee,

Thanks for your reply! But somebody suggested me not to go with DDR3 technology but with DDR2 since my Power Supply isn't that good enough and that DDR3 will use more power.

Could you kindly suggest me what to do?

Also, if your card has 3 connectors, than what is that card advertised on Nvidia India's website at this link: http://www.nvidia.co.in/object/product_geforce_gts_250_in.html

Why does that show Dual DVI connection than? These NVIDIA cards to select from are extremely confusing; one model looks different on one website and different on another. Serious problems.

And since this happens to be PCIE v2.0 card, will it work on my 16x PCIe v1.0 slot? What are the shortcomings I might need to face b'coz of this?

Regards,
Apoorva.
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lee555J5Commented:
I input the system information you provided above plus some assumptions into 2 different wattage calculators, and your 460W PSU sees to be perfectly sized. DDR2 vs DDR3 on a video card is an insignificant difference. Besides, you will want the faster VRAM.
Re: the video card in the link with 2 DVI-D connectors - Remember how I said nVidia makes the GPU, and the other manufacturers (XFX, PNY, Palit, etc.) license and build nVidia's GPUs onto the boards we use? In this case nVidia simply built their own complete card using their own GPU, and they *chose* to build the card with 2 DVI-D connectors. Two cards using the same GPU can have different combinations of external connectors.
PCI Express 1.0 vs 2.0--a 2.0 card should work in a 1.0 slot, just derate itself. No big deal. You have a much larger selection if you look at 2.0 cards. If you buy a 2.0 card and you replace the motherboard a year from now, then you will already have a 2.0 card. If you buy a 2.0 card knowing it will only run at 1.0 speed, I would not spend too much money today.
For your system and purposes, I recommend the GTS 2xx series. It is about $50 more than the GT series but about $150 less than the GTX series. You mention HDMI. An HDMI connector immediately jumps you to the GTS 250 series. Newegg currently has 18 of these all with slight variations in clock speed. The only significant difference among them is the amount of RAM--1 GB vs 512 MB. I recommend 1 GB, and this drops your selection to 12. Warranty appears to be a concern of yours; and the XFX, Zotac, and Sparkle cards all have lifetime warranties.
Lee
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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:
Dear Lee,

This is what somebody has mentioned whom I questioned the similar query as posted above:

"I said your power supply isn't very good so you would HAVE to purchase a ddr2 version instead because a ddr3 version would use more power. Or get a decent power supply as well. Lastly , your power supply is ok for a no gpu system or a very small gpu. But it isn't enough wattage for a decent gpu nor does it have decent amperage or efficiency.

Also, I did the Power requirement calculations at the link mentioned above by Nobus and it says 291W is what my requirement will be which means my 460W of Cooler Master power supply is more than sufficient to supply enough power to this Nvidia Graphics card. However, this was that other person whom I questioned has to mention:
"Keep in mind that this is a bear minimum required. Go in and redo you calculations but on the last one add in a 30% capacitor age rate. Now take into account that sense your psu is not 80+ (A guarantee to put out at least 80% of its rated power) We must assume its actually less efficient.

PSU's never put out the power they are rated for underload. Some of its lost through heat. Good Power supplies have a 80+ certification, which is a guarantee that power supply will provide at the bear minimum 80% of it rated power

Example: A 550w unit with an 80+ certification will provide at the very minimum 440w of power.

Anything that is not 80+ certified we must assume its less efficient thus putting out less power under load.

Example: 550w unit thats not 80+, Lets assume its about 60% efficient. Thats only 330w. Some power supplies are even less efficient than 60%. Bigger is not always better in the PSU world. A good power supply will always have an 80+ certification or higher."

So, Lee and all others if you'll could kindly suggest an answer  to this feedback that I have received in regards to my questions asked.

Regards,
Apoorva.
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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:
Dear All,

Would also like to ask that if Nvidia Graphics card are compared with ATI Radeon card, which company provides the best quality, highly durable & better performance? How about the after Sales service as well?

More importantly, which card is considered best & perfect for playing high end games and watching Videos (Normal & HD)?

And how is this Nvidia GTS 250 Graphics card? Which product in ATI Radeon can be compared with this Nvidia card?

Kindly provide your suggestions.....Thanks!

Regards,
Apoorva.
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lee555J5Commented:
No, that is not what 80% efficiency means. That math is backwards. This efficiency calculation is very simple: output power / input power. That is it. Your PSU output power is your PSU's output power. That is why it is rated 460W.
The equation:  (output power / input power) * 100% = Eff%
If you PSU is rated 460W and 80% efficient, this means your PSU must draw 460W / 0.8 = 575W from the wall to achieve 460W output power to your system. If your PSU's efficiency is less than 80%, it will draw more power from the wall to achieve 460W output. If your PSU's efficiency is greater than 80%, it will draw less power. Over time, your power bill will be less with a more efficient PSU.
It is true some power is lost in heat, but a PSU rated 460W had better produce something close to 460W output, regardless of input power, heat loss, or efficiency rating.
Power supply education at Newegg
http://www.newegg.com/product/CategoryIntelligenceArticle.aspx?articleId=199#topic2
Good article at Tom's Hardware even if it is almost 3 years old
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-power-supplies,1664-6.html

I would not listen to this "other person". It seems they have done a little reading and are misapplying what they read. If you follow this person's advice, you will spend more money on a PSU that is oversized for your system and will *not* operate at its rated efficiency because it is underloaded.
Lee
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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:
Dear Lee,

Thanks for your quick reply! Also, if you could answer my next question asked please.

Regards,
Apoorva.
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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:
Hey Lee,

Would also like to ask how is Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 in terms of performance and quality? Will it work on my Asrock 945G-DVI motherboard and PSU and on the 16x PCIe slot?

Regards,
Apoorva.
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lee555J5Commented:
I like it so far. It is connected to my new LG monitor via DVI-D and looks fantastic. I have not yet tried any games, but videos from http://www.hulu.com look great.
Yes, it will work on your motherboard;but as we discussed before, it is a PCIE2.0 card and it will downgrade itself to 1.0 for your slot. I think you will be fine.
Lee
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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:
Hey Lee,

So, you own Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 Graphics card? Did you face any difficulties with it? How'z the performance? And does it have an HDMI connection?

Also, you did not answer this question I posted above:

"Would also like to ask that if Nvidia Graphics card are compared with ATI Radeon card, which company provides the best quality, highly durable & better performance? How about the after Sales service as well?

More importantly, which card is considered best & perfect for playing high end games and watching Videos (Normal & HD)?

And how is this Nvidia GTS 250 Graphics card? Which product in ATI Radeon can be compared with this Nvidia card?

Kindly provide your suggestions.....Thanks!"

Regards,
Apoorva.
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lee555J5Commented:
Personally, I think if you are *not* considering spending $500-700 dollars for the absolute speed king card for the absolute max fps in the latest games, it is more preference than anything else. Me, I prefer nVidia. The different manufacturers (ASUS, XFX, and others) usually build cards using both company's GPUs--not on the same card. In other words, ASUS makes some cards using nVidia and some cards using ATI.
Through the different generations and chipsets, the 2 companies are more or less matched in price and performance. Personally, I have never had to deal with after-sales service with nVidia cards built by ASUS, EVGA, or Palit; so I cannot speak for that.
I think the nVidia GTS 250 is roughly equivalent to the ATI HD4850.
Lee
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lee555J5Commented:
No difficulties at all.
Downloaded latest drivers from http://www.nvidia.com--did not use cd.
I am currently connected with DVI-D. Both video card and monitor have HDMI connection, but neither came with HDMI cable. :-|   I will try that later.
Lee
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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:

Dear Lee,
 
Hi There! Well, I just talked to one of the suppliers based in Mumbai, India known as Big Byte Corporation and according to him, if I want to go ahead with a better powerful Graphics card, then I should rather prefer Nvidia GeForce 9800GT over Nvidia GT220 1GB DDR3 since this happens to be the highest in the 9 Series line of cards therefore, GT220 will not perform as good as 9800GT and according to him, this happens to be the most successful selling cards across game enthusiastic till date.
 
          However, he also mentioned that if I am going for 9800GT card, then this calls for change in my Cooler Master Power supply which currently provided 460W of power with no PCIE power connector and but 9800GT requires 600W Power supply along with 6-pin power connector.
Now, it is just few months back that I purchased this new Cooler Master Power supply and thinking of replacing it with a better one so early is a foolishness b’coz I won’t get complete amount that I spend in purchasing it, again I need to find a buyer for this second hand product to get rid of it though my product is very much new and carefully maintained.
I also see that Nvidia GT 220 supports Directx 10.1 whereas 9800GT supports only Directx 10, so, what am I going to exactly lack here (or suffer loss of feature/technology) if I purchase 9800GT that support Directx 10?
 
And if you had to do a selection, which Graphics card would you rather preferred to have gone with – 9800GT or 220GT?
 
 
Kindly reply…..
 
Regards,
Apoorva.
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lee555J5Commented:
I would take the 9800GT over the GT 220, but we were talking about the GTS 250. Of the 3 cards, I would still take the GTS250 with 1GB DDR3. All 3 cards are PCIE2.0 and will downgrade to 1.0 for your motherboard. For this reason, I recommend you do not spend too much money on your video card.
You can upgrade to the 600W PSU if that would make you feel more comfortable in the long run. I would not go any bigger. Remember what I said above about underloaded PSUs not operating in their optimal design range--you do not want to run them at 100% rated power all the time, but you also do not want to run them too lightly loaded either.
Again, I would not worry too much about DX10 vs DX10.1 with your motherboard. The GTS 250 I bought only supports DX10.
When you are ready, you need to build another box with the following:
Motherboard with PCIE2.0 slot (or 2)
800W PSU minimum
nVidia GTX 470 or 480 (or 2)
8-16 GB DDR3
Until you replace your PCIE1.0 motherboard, I would not spend too much money on video.
Lee
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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:
Dear Lee,

Thanks for your reply! Well, I see that the price for Nvidia GeForce GTS 250 is much high and so is the price for Nvidia GeForce 9800GT and both of them demands my Current Power Supply of Cooler Master 460W to be replaced with 600W which will again require me to fuel in more money.

Therefore, I feel at this point of time, the right graphics card that I should go-ahead with will be Nvidia GeForce GT 220 since the price is reasonable and won't require me to change my existing Power Supply as well. Maybe down the line, when the time is right, I’ll get this Nvidia GT 220 replaced with a better one.

I was just wondering what is it that those 2 Graphics card have the capability of handling or playing that this Nvidia GT220 doesn't have in it (lacking). What will I be missing out on?

Regards,
Apoorva.
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lee555J5Commented:
Technically, the biggest difference in those cards is simply their ability to render frames per second at higher resolutions. The only place you *might* see a difference is in videos or games with lots of fast motion, flashes, and explosions. Even in fast-paced games, you could set your resolution a step or two lower and be fine. I think you ought to buy the card, install it, get the latest drivers from nVidia.com, and play. I think you are making the right decision considering your PCIE1.0 slot motherboard--more money would be a waste.
Good luck,
Lee

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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:
Hey Lee,

Just would like to know from you that even if I decide to go with Nvidia GeForce GTS 250, then will that card work perfectly with my existing Power Supply of Cooler Master 460W. I did some small study at this link: http://techreport.com/articles.x/16504 and it says that GTS 250 has a single six-pin auxiliary power connector onboard which means I do not require any additional Power connector from my Power Supply though my Power Supply does have a 6pin PCIe connector.

Secondly, the link also mentions:

"Although, we should note, Nvidia rates the GTS 250's max board power at 150W, right at the limits of the PCI Express spec for this power plug configuration."

Does that mean that the GTS 250 card doesn't require more than 150W to work meaning my 460W of Cooler Master eXtreme Power Supply is adequate to do the job?

So, I request if you could kindly spend some time and visit that link and do a close study and let me know please.

Thanks for your help!

Regards,
Apoorva.
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lee555J5Commented:
I read the techreport.com article, and I would not worry about it. After all, even they consider the 2nd power connector "superfluous". They are also talking about "max board power"; and you will not be operating at that "max board power" very much, maybe a little bit here and there at certain points in certain games. I have said throughout our conversation here I think your existing 460W PSU is fine. I have also said many times you do not want to put too much money into all the other components until you are ready to upgrade your motherboard.
Lee
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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:
Dear Lee,

Hi There! Well, instead of buying an Nvidia Graphics card, I am planning to go ahead with a Gigabyte motherboard, Model: GA-H57M-USB3 Rev1.0 (Link: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=3307) as I am extremely amazed and hard to believe the endless features this Motherboard has to offer. However, when I visited few other forums on the internet to check if any user of this motherboard has faced any sort of technical issues, I was shocked to learn that people are facing issue with this motherboard.

Now Lee, what those 2 users have explained on the forum in regards to their technical issues faced with this Gigabyte GA-H57M-USB3 Rev1.0 Motherboard, I have re-drafted the same but in a simple manner and request you to kindly provide your input as this time, I am a serious buyer and e'm much willing to purchase this Gigabyte Motherboard but only afraid of going for it due to these issues mentioned:

Customer 1:

This user is a Reseller and Assembler at a Computer Store.
 
The user of your Gigabyte Motherboard Model: GA-H57M-USB3 says that after attaching your Gigabyte motherboard on to the system and doing a double & triple check if everything is connected fine on the board, he went ahead and Powered On the system. He hears one beep as soon as the system Powers On then he started with the procedure to create RAID 5 and then went ahead with the installation of Windows 7.  Everything seem to work fine during the initial stage however he did notice that after running the system for 20 mins, the system Turned Off and then back ON automatically which happened a few times – why did this happened?
 
Also after the system has run for more than 20 mins, if the user tries to restart Windows 7 from within Windows, if would not restart any more instead would Turn Off completely for 2 secs and then back on – why – could you answer this as well? He further mentions that if the computer was cool, it could be restarted from within Windows. The user on the forum further mentions:
 
“I have so far swapped power supplies, swapped hard drives (raid5) to one drive in AHCI and after in IDE mode and try in legacy mode (no IRQ share for them), updated to the latest bios, checked heat sink to CPU bond, the CPU good connected into his socket, still the board now reboots each time I try to re-install Windows 7 during the first load using DVD! I suspected the "Turbo Boost" and went into the Bios to disable it. Curiously, the QPI “Auto mode” chose 6,4GT/s 48X but my CPU normally needs 36X 4,8GT/s, so I fixed it manually and all other setting that was in Auto mode were changed to Normal mode, also fixed all frequencies and removed “Special Turbo Mode” however, these solutions didn't fix the problem.” So, he suspected to be an issue with the motherboard itself and went ahead with RMA exchange procedure however, the new board though being set manually with basic and correct setting ended up with the same issue….why?


Customer 2:

Another user on the same forum reports that whenever he uses his brand new PSU (Power Supply Unit) Aero Cool 650W, 80+ with this motherboard, his system tries to load Windows 7 and then Shuts down.
He further mentions: “I can edit BIOS settings, all fine but every time I tried to boot and load Win 7 it shuts down at the same point, right before the logon screen load”. And the funny part here is that this same PSU works fine in his another desktop PC with the configuration as: “Gigabyte G33M-DS2R, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, 2x1GB DDR2 Kingston HyperX@667MHz, Ati 4770”. So why not with this motherboard GA-H57M USB3? And initially, when he assembled the entire desktop along with this Gigabyte GA-H57M-USB3 motherboard, and first turned on the system, the Processor fan started and then Turned Off. So, he couldn’t manage to install any OS as his system kept shutting down randomly.  And he also mentions: “Sometimes it last a little bit more, but so far, not more than 20 mins. I've never managed to pass the Win 7 expanding files screen during Windows 7 setup process.”


I use Cooler Master 460W Extreme Power Supply. I would like to know if this Power supply will be compatible with this Gigabyte GA H57M-USB3 Rev1.0 motherboard?


Kindly let me know about your answers please.....

Regards,
Apoorva.
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lee555J5Commented:
  1. That is a MicroATX motherboard. Are you sure you want MicroATX? It is smaller than ATX. Will your case support MicroATX?
  2. Newegg has this board here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128430 for US $119.99. It has 13 user reviews so far--8 are 5 eggs and none are 1 egg. The only 2 2-egg reviews: one had some graphics and memory issues and the other was trying to overclock it. There are not enough reviews yet for me to form a strong opinion based on reviews. Though, so far, it seems like a good board. Do not be shocked about people having issues with products. It does not matter how good a company is or their reputation, there will *always* be issues. That is why there are return policies and warranties. You just want to make sure the number of people with issues is low and they are the exception, and not the general trend. See point 3 for a likely fix for the lower reviews.
  3. This is a relatively new board. If you get it, you absolutely want to check for and install BIOS updates.
  4. This board supports PCI Express 2.0, so this opens up a new range of video cards for you.
  5. Remember, if you change your motherboard like this, you will need a new CPU and new memory as well.
  6. Those users' 20 minute reboot issues sound like overheating problems. Make sure the CPU fan is turning and the rest of the box has good ventilation. If it still has issues, send it back.
  7. I still think your power supply is adequate. If you add additional hard drives or optical drives or a really powerful video card, you might want to upgrade to a 500-600W. Is this your PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171028? If so, it still looks compatible with the 20+4 motherboard connector.
Lee
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Apoorva ShethAuthor Commented:
Dear Lee,

Thanks for your prompt response! It is highly appreciable!

Well, I believe MicroATX is fine with me. My earlier motherboard of Asrock 945G-DVI (which I am still using) is also a MicroATX form factor. And the size of this new Gigabyte Motherboard is exactly the same as my current Asrock Motherboard so my "CASE" will definitely support it.

But since you said that MicroATX will be smaller than ATX....so I would like to ask you that how does that matter anyway? Does that mean a motherboard bigger in size is better as compared to a motherboard smaller in size?

And anyway'z, I have advertised my computer products > Intel Dual Core 3Ghz CPU, Asrock Motherboard, 3GB DDR2 RAM & Cabinet for sale on an online website for Rs. 8'000 (USD $ 177.13).
And this will be replaced with a new Gigabyte GA-H57M-USB3 Motherboard and an Intel Corei 3 or Corei5 processor.

The price for Intel Corei5 750 + Gigabyte Motherboard is Rs. 18'200/- (USD $402.83)
The price for Intel Corei3 + Gigabyte Motherboard is Rs. 14'500/- (USD $ 320.94)

I have received the above pricing from few Computer stores in Mumbai.

And I am surprised to know that how did you missed out on one important element of this motherboard and that is the choices of display ports it has to offer! Yes! This Gigabyte motherboard is equipped with VGA, DVI, HDMI & "The Display Port"! And this board is powered with USB 3 along with ample of features! And 2 more key elements to note here is that this board has a 2 x 64Mbit BIOS support wherein if any issues happens to the main BIOS, then the backup can be used from the second BIOS to recover the system. And the second key element is "2 ounces of copper" on this board which dramatically lowers system temperature by delivering a more efficient spreading of heat from critical areas of the motherboard such as the CPU.

That is the reason why I was shocked to hear that a motherboard having such Tons of excellent features and configurations can also fail. Again the company Gigabyte who has manufactured this Motherboard is a world recognized and leader in manufacturing of such motherboards so was not able to digest the fact this motherboard right in its initial stage have fall into disputes.

Regards,
Apoorva.
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lee555J5Commented:
No, bigger does not equal better or worse, only different.
Make sure you read all the tech information and user reviews to get the right combination of board, CPU, and video card. I read some users had issues with wrong combinations getting the integrated video ports working.
Do not be surprised if a company or product has a few issues. Remember, there will *always* be issues. The better companies keep those issues down to smaller numbers or percentages. Also, keep in mind this is a newer board. BIOS updates can fix several issues later, so check the web site every month or so.
I did not miss the fact this board has lots of video options. I actually ignored it because you and I have been discussing discrete video cards; and you will almost always get better performance out of discrete, dedicated graphics processors than integrated. At risk of opening up this discussion again, integrated graphics are fine for most business use and fine for most home use such as internet, email, word processing, casual gaming, etc. Personally, I would not use integrated graphics for lots of full screen movies or serious games.
Your quotes:
"I wanted to play good games and to watch movies especially Action movies."
"More importantly, which card is considered best & perfect for playing high end games and watching Videos (Normal & HD)?"
Based on this, I do not think the integrated graphics will be powerful enough. The good news is you can try it. If it does not perform well enough for you, it has a slot where you can add a discrete video card later.

I also like this board with USB3.
Lee
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