How can i view the Exchange tabs in AD user account properties?

Hi,

I have exchange 2k7 installed on win 2k8 server. After installing the Exchange management tools in a windows XP, i still can not view any Exchange related tabs in the ADUC user account properties. Also, i installed Win 2k3 Admin Pack successfully so i can open ADUC in my Win Xp as well.

Appreciate youe quick reponse in this issue.

Thanks
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Syed Mutahir AliTechnology ConsultantCommented:
they dont appear in Exchange 2007 anymore, you would use Exchange Management console now.

No Tabs for Exchange in ADUC since Exchange 2007 - not supported in Exchange 2007.
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Glen KnightCommented:
You canno with anything newer than Exchange 2003

all the user management is done using the Exchange Managament console where you can also create new users
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Premkumar YogeswaranAnalyst II - System AdministratorCommented:
It cannot be done for Windows XP

But you can run the ESM in Windows 7. Anyway you cant see the exchange attributes in ADUC anymore...!

Check this E-E Article for the same.
http://www.experts-exchange.com/articles/OS/Microsoft_Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_7/Solution-for-Windows-7RC-Remote-Server-Admin-Tools-and-Exchange-Management-Tools.html
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Syed Mutahir AliTechnology ConsultantCommented:
This is not supported - cannot be done- cannot view tabs in ADUC anymore if you are using Exchange 2007.

premglitz :> I think thats clear enough from the first post as well.




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Premkumar YogeswaranAnalyst II - System AdministratorCommented:
Mutahir,
User is asked for Windows XP and he is also confused with the adminpak...!

So that i cleared him with the Additional Article saying that it could be possible in Windows 7 for installing ESM. Also i have mentioned that it cannot be done via ADUC anymore.

Do you have any issue in giving some additional information?
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Syed Mutahir AliTechnology ConsultantCommented:
Premglitz, there is nothing wrong in providing additional information which might help the author.

In Windows 7, even after installing Exchange Mgmt tools, you don't get the Exchange tabs on ADUC
No Matter what you do, Microsoft doesn't support the tabs of Exchange related stuff anymore in ADUC.

Exchange management tools can be installed in w7, vista etc but you will never get the tabs.

That is what the question was and that is what the first two posts are talking about.

I only pointed out, as this sometimes create confusion, nothing personal against you :-)

Regards
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Premkumar YogeswaranAnalyst II - System AdministratorCommented:
Hi Mutahir,
I have also mentioned that point in my first post. Exchange attrib cannot be view in ADUC...!

Anyway thanks...!
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imran4sinCommented:
Hi,
Here is what you need to do.

RDP to the server where you installed exchange.

Open the Exchange management console (EMC) on that server.

Expand the "Recipient Configuration"
Click on "Mailbox"

This will show you all the users mailboxes in your exchange organisation.


You cannot view this from your normal ADUC.

This needs to be done from within the EMC .

Hope this helps
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ilantzCommented:
Hi,

This issue is very common, you can check our this solution in the technet forum:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/exchangesvradmin/thread/cbe0f3a4-4613-4d46-ad9e-5e4b43cd94e9

Best Regards,
Ilantz
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amyasseinAuthor Commented:
Hi guys,

thanks for your response.

Actually, you're absolutely right about not seeing the Exchange related tabs in ADUC since all management done from EMC. However, maybe i forgot to mention that i've installed the Exchange 2003 management tools 2 weeks ago and i can see the tabs. Even though you've exchange 2007 servers in your environment, you can still install exchange 2003 mgmt tools for the sake of seeing the tabs only in ADUC not to manage the 2k7 servers as the EMC can do the managing job. After that, i replaced my PC with a newer one and i tried to install the 2k3 mgmt tools again but i got this annoying error when the installation tried to configure registry keys for Exchange management snap-ins:

Error 0xc103798A

I searched MS article and they said to check some registry key REG_SZ Atl.dll to see if it matches the path in c:\windows\system32\atl.dll and i checked and it matches so Microsoft didn't solve the problem. In the same article, they said Atl.dll is a DLL registered when Win 2k3 Admin Pack is installed. So, from what i understood from them is to install the 2k3 mgmt tools before win 2k3 AdminPak.

I really appreciate if someone can shed some light on this.
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ilantzCommented:
well.. the 2003 tools will be totally unusable when your exchange 2003 is gone, that is for creating mailboxes etc..( besides the fact that it is un-supported to use the 2003 tools against 2007 objects)
I'd suggest that you'll check out the Exchange Tasks 2007 tool to keep all your ADUC features, or get familiar with the EMC and powershell :)

Best Regards,
Ilantz

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Syed Mutahir AliTechnology ConsultantCommented:
http://www.u-btech.com/products/exchange-tasks-2007.html

This should do what you are after (you would have to purchase it though)
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Glen KnightCommented:
What do you mean none of the answers helped you?
The first 2 posts provide you with the correct answer.

It might not be what you want to hear but it is correct!
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amyasseinAuthor Commented:
Hmmm ... I respect your solutions guy but they were negative ones.

However, here is the below reason why non of your answers have helped me :

To be specific, the first 2 posts (as you mentioned) are from user "mutahir" and from You. You guys suggested a very odd solution by saying to use the EMC 2007 as the Exchange management tools 2003 won't going to work if i have Exchange 2k7 in my environment. Therefore, it looked to me that both of you supplied the same negative answer.

Here is my reply : Guess What! I installed the Exchange management tools 2003 and it is working fine now , so your answers didn't help.

Have a nice day.

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amyasseinAuthor Commented:
Also, i want to give some piece of advice here ..

"Closing forum threads by accepting my solution is not an insult, it is simply your answers are not accepted, that's all". Why you guys always are taking this personally? ... No offend! No hard feelings !

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ilantzCommented:
i seem to understand the frustration with ADUC and exchange 2007, all the answers here are correct.. except for you "final solution".

When you will remove the 2003 server, some operations will fail. that's a fact from around dozens of implementation I've done for exchange 2007.

I think when you call for help you should at lest respect the suggestions...  there is a specific table that shows what you can and can't do with the 2003 ADUC management tools against 2007 objects.

The best solution to allow you keep your needs is actually mutahir.

few links to support this (again):

http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2006/10/09/429135.aspx
http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2006/10/02/429053.aspx

Best Regards,
Ilantz
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Glen KnightCommented:
You are trying to accept your own answer as the solution which is not a correct solution.

Exchange 2003 tools WILL NOT manage Exchange 2007 this is FACT, it is not a negative answer it is the correct one.

The first 2 posts in this thread are the correct answer.
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amyasseinAuthor Commented:
Do whatever you want, split points, throw point .... i don't care.

I am insisting that these guys didn't make a huge effort to provide positive solution. Their solutions didn't benefit me. Ok ... you said that i cannot use exchange 2003 management tool in exchange 2007 env. so WHAT ? ... where is the solution then ? How can you help me ? ... All you did is your told facts not solutions... However, i installed it and it works great now so how the heck you give points to those junks who didn't so any effort in providing accurate solutions ? ...
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Chris DentPowerShell DeveloperCommented:
Hi Amyassein,

Admin Tools for Exchange 2003 will work against Exchange 2007, but only to an extent and their use is not supported.

What should have been said is that you can install the Exchange 2007 Management Tools on Windows XP. This still does not make the information available in AD Users and Computers but it does give you the fully supported tools on the client. If you're running a 32-bit operating system you would need to download this version:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6be38633-7248-4532-929b-76e9c677e802&displaylang=en

Chris
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amyasseinAuthor Commented:
Hey chris,

Thanks for the kind and professional reply.

I agree with you 100 %, however, i don't need to do a huge task by using those tabs, all i do is to , for example, give mailbox rights, manager delivery options, populate information in CustomAttr., ..... etc and i don't need more than this.
And yes, you can do all these tasks from EMC 2007 and more but everybody's right is to work from single centralized location as ADUC :-)

Thanks
I am goin to accept Chris-Dent reply
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Chris DentPowerShell DeveloperCommented:

It is not my intent to go for accepted answer at this stage, I'd far rather you accept the first two (or let the auto-close complete) they're accurate. I'm quite happy to continue the discussion on that basis.


Ultimately this boils down to rocks and hard places.

Custom Attributes, Delivery Options, etc are all simple AD attributes, they are very unlikely to cause you any significant problem regardless of interface.

Mailbox Rights however are a different matter. For Exchange 2003 we needed to have the tools installed, and the same is true of 2007. I would be extremely reluctant to say they will work well across platforms. It might work but that's not the same as definitely will.

Mail Enabling mailboxes has the same problem. Exchange 2007 mailboxes are different from 2003 mailboxes is a number of different ways (different AD attributes). Exchange 2003 only caters for Exchange 2000 / 2003 mailboxes, it doesn't set everything that needs to be set for 2007.

This is the crux of the "unsupported" statement. It might work, it might not, MS aren't going to ensure that it works and if it breaks its your own problem. Very much the same stance as we see with demoting a DC running Exchange.

> more but everybody's right is to work from single centralized location as ADUC

This is, unfortunately, a bit of a problem. MS have decided to go down a different route (splitting things up again) and we're all slaves to their choices.

The closest you can come to that for free is by switching to pure-PowerShell based administration, there's very little it cannot do but, unsurprisingly, not everyone is ever going to be happy with that approach. Otherwise you either have to develop your own interface, or buy one, neither option is particularly appealing.

Chris
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amyasseinAuthor Commented:
Thanks Chris ....
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