SBS Migration

I will be upgrading from a SBS2003 single server installation to a new SBS2008 - also a Dell Server.

What would you recommend for the migration  / upgrade method to use? We even work weekends so down time and server access is critical.

We have about 12-14 Users / Computers.
Email and Public folders are used heavily.

How painfull is the Migration?

Thanks in advance.
kginefraAsked:
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SemperWiFiCommented:
I have done several of these migrations, even a few as small as yours. Sysprep, etc. is good but unless you have a TON of group policies in place I suggest just a quick manual setup of the new server. 2008 GPO works a bit differently than 2003 and where there were a lot of tasks commonly performed with scrips in 2003 you can use GPO to perform now. Since the new GPO is here and works so well it is better to move as completely into the new as possible or just xfer your scrips for now to get you going and phase them out as you go.

Looking at the amount of users you have. Just jump into SBS 2008 Console and use the wizards. You should have all of your user accounts, mailboxes and groups setup along with all other base settings configured in about an hour to hour an a half. Migrate your data (if it is live at the time then consider a sync program so you can have changed files updated as the users create/use them. Use Exmerge to extract the mailboxes from your old Exchange Server (you can export them directly to a shared drive on the new server), install Exchange tools on a x86 machine (XP works fine) and use the shell commands to import mailboxes to the new server.

I have done this migration with under 20 users in 10 hours - 15 if you include the setup and updating of the new server along with some trouble shooting. Now after I've done it several times the time is even less. Since you can going on a weekend I would do it then. Be sure to demote the old server before introducing the new one so it is not the DC, SBS hates not being the DC and it is almost certain to cause you issues if you don't complete this step. Then disconnect your clients from the old domain and use the SBS connect package to join the new domain.

If you need any more details let me know. You'll get this easy though, no worries!
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kginefraAuthor Commented:
More details please.
You suggested a quick manual setup. Do you mean set up new Server as a completely new server?
Only some login scripts - no biggie.
Concerns:
1. Don't want to visit each desktop to migrate/change to new domain,
2. How / why do you demote old SBS server?
3. What scripts to run?
4. What about public folder migration?

Thanks in Advance
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SemperWiFiCommented:
Scrap what I stated above, we'll do this a little more conventionally.

Download and use these - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=31D3F757-9118-4F12-9DB2-296C4729CD5E&displayLang=en

and....

Download this - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=52b7ea63-78af-4a96-811e-284f5c1de13b

Also use the attached checklist.

Get stumped let me know!


SBSMigrationChecklist.docx
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kginefraAuthor Commented:
Can this upgrade be done in phases, or does all have to be done all at once?
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SemperWiFiCommented:
What would you want to leave the old server up doing? I suppose there are certain things you could leave the old server up for but since they are both SBS servers they will both want to be DCs so you would need to have two different domains going for starters.

Please tell me a little more about what you want to do and I'll let you know what I think is best. Though, we are going off a different tangent here and are straying rather far from the question for this thread. We need to be careful not to dilute this as these are used as knowledge-base by others as well. May want to open a new one if we're going off onto another question.
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kginefraAuthor Commented:
I know that two SBS DC's is not a valid configuration. The question was more based on the time to convert. Is it all at once, a weekend deal, or phased in?

I am considering installing the new SBS Server with a new Active Directory design.

If I do this, can I use the same migration tools or no?

I still have to get a new SSL certificate for the 2008 Exchange as well right?

I know if I create a new AD install, I would have to add the desktops to the new domain.

Thanks in advance.
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SemperWiFiCommented:
It sounds like you will be changing quite a bit and probably won't want to migrate anything other than data and mailboxes. If this is the case I wouldn't use any of the migration tools as it will end up causing you more work.

All of this can be done quickly or in phases. You will want to plan before beginning and pause where you would like to pause.

Use the guides I posted, everything you need to know is there. Including all of the additional questions you just asked ;-) Read the guides...
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