Setting up a seperate network for windows SBS 2003 server at home

Hi,

 In my house I have a ISP Modem which connects to a Belkin Router and then to CompA ->network hub -> CompB CompC CompD. Also a wireless laptop.


I just bought a windows sbs 2003 server for home/educational purposes. I want to use this server only to manage one computer which is CompB. When I was  installing DHCP on windows SBS
it said it cant install as there is already a dhcp service which Im assuming its the Belkin router and I have to disable this service for me to complete this installation.  

Can I please get some help on how to configure the router or this network setup where I can have the SBS and compB on a seperate network to the rest of the computers. So I can install DHCP, DNS etc on SBS.

Many Thanks,

Jedi
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btassureCommented:
you will need another switch and network card for the server first of all. can you get hold of these?
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TrilotechCommented:
If it is just two machines you could just put in a couple of static addresses...

Would you need internet access on the SBS and Comp2 machines?

If I were you, I would just disable DHCP on the router.... It doesn't matter if your other computers get their address from the server. It doesn't mean it will be "managing" them. Just add compb to the domain.
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
I disagree with btassure.

You have several options - but you should also be aware that SBS has certain requirements if you want it to functional in an ideal manner.

1.  Purchase another Router.  Connect one of the LAN ports from your existing router to the WAN port of the new router.  (Make sure the new router uses a different subnet - for example, the original may be working on 192.168.1.1 - make sure the new one and in turn the SBS network uses a different subnet - for example, 192.168.1.10.  This is not an ideal solution but will enable you to create a separate internet connected network.  Receiving e-mail may be a problem... but you'll likely have other mail problems with this setup.

2.  Get a STATIC IP address and a separate router.  If you want to use SBS as a mail server (really, one the major reasons to use it period), you WANT a static IP.  You may be able to skirt the issue with the use of services like no-ip.org, but strictly speaking, if you want to experience and learn SBS PROPERLY, you NEED a static IP address.  Many ISPs BLOCK OUTRIGHT any e-mail originating from a dynamic address.  You'd be able to receive, but some people may never get anything you send.

3.  Get a second network adapter and install SBS is in a dual NIC configuration.  One NIC will be your public address and one will be your private - the private is where DHCP serves the rest of the network.  This will have SBS acting as a router for you and all it costs you is a $10-20 network card.  You should STILL have a static IP though.

4.  Not really addressing mail issues, but you can set the SBS network IP address information statically.  Meaning you don't use DHCP.  Strictly speaking, DHCP is NOT necessary.  It's very handy in businesses so anyone can "plug in" to the network and work and they don't need to know how to configure addresses statically (or have the necessary admin rights to do so), but strictly speaking, it's NOT NECESSARY.

Finally,  Why did you get SBS 2003?  Why DIDN'T you get a (likely cheaper) subscription to TechNet Plus Direct instead for purposes of learning?  Using 2003 instead of 2008 is a bit like trying to learn windows by installing Windows 98.  Yeah, there are similarities... but they are very different and learning a system that's being phased out is not as practical as learning a CURRENT system.
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J3D1-KN1G1-1tAuthor Commented:
Hi Peeps,

Thank you for all your responses.

Leew thank you for your thorough response.

1.I would like to go with option 3. Would this still allow for me to setup email properly? and how do I get a staic IP ?

2.How do I setup a private NIC?and does get connected to me existing router?

The reason I got win sbs 2003 is because i got it for free from work. I will look into technet Plus direct for sbs 2008. Do you have a link for this subscription?

 Thank you once again and sorry, as Im just starting with this whole server setup business

Regards,

jedi
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:

> 1. I would like to go with option 3. Would this still allow for me to setup email properly?
Potentially, you would need to forward port 25 to the IP you would then statically assign to the NIC the server uses on this network (assuming your ISP doesn't block it - many do if you don't have a static IP and / or business account)

> and how do I get a staic IP ?
Contact your ISP.  Depends on many factors.  Some offer it, some don't.  Some charge a LOT for it.  Some charge a little.  In New York, I have DSL with Static IP at home - monthly fee for my service is about $95 with 2 static IP.  My Office has a monthly fee of $75 for 5 static IPs and 30 Mbit download speeds.


> 2.How do I setup a private NIC?and does get connected to me existing router?
See attached graphic


https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/bb892756.aspx
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Lee W, MVPTechnology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
By the way, if you go with the above config, you'll need to forward sever ports to the SBS Server's NIC 1 address.  I may be missing one or two, but in short, it should have 25, 80, 443, 444, 1723 (Your ISP may block some or all of those if you don't have a business account).  In addition - the above config should work on SBS 2003. SBS 2008 no longer supports Dual NIC configs like that. It MAY work, but it won't be supported.

If you're learning, be prepared and even EXPECT to wipe and reinstall a few times - best way to learn is to PRACTICE.  And ALWAYS USE THE WIZARDS.  If you use the wizards, setup will be easier.
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J3D1-KN1G1-1tAuthor Commented:
Thank you very much mate
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