How to connect two different location as one network?

How to connect two different location as one network?
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TyBeattyCommented:
Are you looking to have them be one place as in networking?

You can accomplish this with layer 2 switching you can make two locations appear as one.

What exactly are you looking to do?

Thanks,
Tyson
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jeamrotaeAuthor Commented:
I mean, two different location as in 5 miles apart
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BirkyCommented:
Hi,

Where I work we have 2 different location integrated together via a VPN link. Basically we have two Cisco routers that create this link. We have both offices on different ip ranges (ie Location 1 is 192.168.0.x and location 2 is 192.168.1.x. Each workstation computer has a DNS entry in it directing traffic for the other locations IP to the local cisco. The router then sends it via the VPN to the other location. We have a domain controller at each end syncing with each other so both servers know the ip addresses of the client computers so name lookups work as well.

If you cannot do that then you'll need at least one Server 2003 (not sure about any earlier) and you can set it up to accept incomming VPN links. On an Win XP machine you can create a VPN link to that server via IP, etc then you should be able to share that link with other computers.

Hope this points you in the right direction.
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The--CaptainCommented:
jeamrotae - you say: "How to connect two different location as one network?"

You must be more specific - two different locations connected to the internet are connected to the same network (global internet IPv4 address space), but I'm guessing that's not what you're asking.

Cheers,
-Jon
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jeamrotaeAuthor Commented:
VPN? is your connection fast. Because that is what I am afraid of ?
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TyBeattyCommented:
What do you have between the two locations for bandwidth?

I have a couple locations that are running fiber between them currently that we have layer 2 switching in place so the two are one from a network appearance.  I even have Server 2003 clusters running over it so they even see it as a single 10.10.10.x network.
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jeamrotaeAuthor Commented:
Verizon (ISP) should be able to connect two different site right ?
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BirkyCommented:
Hi,

The VPN link can only be as fast as your connections at each end. Our connection handles our VOIP well and DC syncing and still has pleanty of speed to transfer files but we dont normally open them from the remote location.

Hope this helps.
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TyBeattyCommented:
VPN will do it...    But again we come back to:

What do you want to do across this connection??
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cwoolseyCommented:
TyBeatty is right, I would share a little more information to help out since there are a lot or variables and options that could be present to answer your question..
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jeamrotaeAuthor Commented:
Suppose you have a building supported by the same isp as another building located miles away. Beside vpn is there a way to connect both buildings, network wise.

I thought there is an isp option in the plan isp offers that someone by know of.
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TyBeattyCommented:
That would be a very tough one, unless they are going to offer you a dedicated line of some sort.

If they where doing a dedicated point-to-point then there might be some options with layer 2 switching, but over a standard ISP internet connection there is not going to be much outside of a VPN tunnel.
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The--CaptainCommented:
jeamrotae - why are you ignoring requests for clarification?  We don't even know at what OSI level you need these networks connected...

Do you want a bridge, a router, a VPN, simple port forwards?  Who knows?!  You need to tell us your exact situation and requirements before we can help you.

Cheers,
-Jon
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jeamrotaeAuthor Commented:
To give an example, when I was a tech in the schools we as tech would ghost image with the proper domain and settings. And as long as the computer was on administrative vlan we able update software from the network where there would be an application server located in different buildings far away updating the computer.

We were not doing vpn to connect to the computer located in a different computer. I do not how we were able to connect. All I know that all schools were supported by verizon (isp), had all cisco routers/switch and main windows server that was used for dhcp and apps. There were 2 vlans administrative and local (local was very restrictive). Somehow the adminstrative vlan network connected to a server or servers outside of the building.
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cwoolseyCommented:
The company I work for can offer MPLS connections to businesses both on and off-net so it is not tied to our footprint but the result would be similar to a VPN just enable the ability to support QOS and an "Any to Any" connection if you brought on more than one branch office. However with that said you would still need separate LAN IP ranges on both sides to effectively support the end result you are seeking.  (192.168.1.x and 192.168.2.x)...

This can present the capacity for a single "Domain" just with a multitude of branch locations all working off of a central server. And it is very common practice to setup redundant servers across MPLS networks. Because in the end all it takes is setting IP Addresses with a primary address and a backup address. The servers can be made to talk simply by setting the IP Addresses between the two systems for incremental changes and using your LAN DNS you can establish the primary and backup options as well for all of the client systems. So again a large variety of options from a "Carrier's Perspective".
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The--CaptainCommented:
jeamrotae - do you want potential explanations/conjectures of how your old school network operated (of which there can be countless), or do you have an actual problem or situation with which you need assistance?

If the former, I'm not sure how to answer, or if anyone can really help too much.  As mentioned, there are countless ways your school could have been doing this [connection to a certain VLAN allows access to some nonspecific remote resource].

If the latter, then can you *please* *please* *please* *please* *please* clarify what you are attempting to do?

If you are unwilling/unable to provide a specific scenario/problem that you want us to solve, might I suggest closing this question (delete w/ refund?)

Cheers,
-Jon
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jeamrotaeAuthor Commented:
I am just asking what ways is it possible to connect two site together.  I running cable and setting up the network and there is another location that needs the same work. And we would like to connect the two sites as they were one site logically.
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TyBeattyCommented:
Then bascially you are going to have to talk to our ISP about doing one of two things, either going with a dedicated line you can manage and control the switching for, or if the ISP offers some serice to provide that for you.

Either way it is going to be a dedicated line or a VPN.
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The--CaptainCommented:
jeamrotae - until you can be more specific, I can't help you.  I hope there is someone here who can.

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jeamrotaeAuthor Commented:
Thanks, Cisco told me this is method often used.
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