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WSUS services stop off and on during the day

I get events that tell me the services related to WSUS or possibly IIS stop off and on.  Like Client web, Reporting Web, Simple Auth,  Server Synchronization, etc.
I don't know how to trouble shoot this.  It's a 2008 std, DC
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What do the security logs say around the times they stop?  other logs?  have you been on when it happened?

take a look at the specific log files for WSUS, windows update.log, does it shed any light?
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just got back in the office I'll post later today
Nothing in the security logs.  Yes event 13042 is one of them.  I'll reads the links you sent and post after.
When I type cacls I get a message that it is now Icacls.  When I type Icacls it asks for many parameters.  I think icacls "name" /verify is correct, but I don't know what to use for the name
Still need help with my last post
The cacls/icacls is meant to verify the permissions.

see if this is of more help

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc708545%28WS.10%29.aspx
You should also go over.....



http://support.microsoft.com/kb/920659
The 2nd link 920659 seems like it could be very helpful but it applies to server 2003.  The settings on server 2008 for IIS are "very' different.  Can you find me an article that would apply to 2008 or translate the 2003 article for me.  I'm really new to 2008.  Still learning.  Teaching myself.  I'm the only Admin at the company.

Thanks
Ignore my last post.  I figured it out.  Didn't solve the problem.  I'll read the other link, later
I'm also getting this error.  However, when I check the computers they don't show any failures.  I'm hoping maybe this will help you help me trouble shoot.

Client computers are installing updates with a higher than 10 percent failure rate
sorry for taking so long to get to this.  I'll try to read it today or tomorrow.  Thanks for continuing to help.
In the first section of the article it explains how to reset the passwords of the IUSR accounts.  When I did this only 2 of my 3 servers were listed.  The DC where WSUS is hosted (2008) is not there.  Does 2008 not use this account?  I also noticed in IIS mgr from the 2008 server the "IIS Manager permissions" portion is empty.  Is that the way it should be?
Found this
http://learn.iis.net/page.aspx/140/understanding-built-in-user-and-group-accounts-in-iis-7/ 
Understanding the new IUSR account

As mentioned above, the IUSR account will replace the IUSR_MachineName account in IIS 7. The IUSR_MachineName account will still be created and used only when the FTP 6 compatible server included on the WIndows Server 2008 is installed. If the FTP Server included with Windows Server 2008 is not installed, then this account is never created.
OK.  I think my settings are good..  I've made the changes and will post later any results
Nope still getting errors.  What if I uninstall WSUS and reinstall it.  Might be less frustrating than what we've gone through so far.
Yes, go ahead with uninstall/reinstall.

Follow this only if you have troubles removing

http://blogs.technet.com/sus/archive/2008/11/05/how-to-manually-remove-all-of-wsus.aspx

In addition to the blog you may need to uninstall Windows Internal Database


To uninstall Windows Internal Database
Open a command shell.

Call msiexec with the correct key for the operating system platform.

On 32-bit platforms: msiexec /x {CEB5780F-1A70-44A9-850F-DE6C4F6AA8FB} callerid=ocsetup.exe

 On 64-bit platforms: msiexec /x {BDD79957-5801-4A2D-B09E-852E7FA64D01} callerid=ocsetup.exe


Thanks.  I'll post when I can.
I uninstalled it today.  When I tried to uninstall the database I got the attached error.  
WSUS.png
Ignore that, it's probably already uninstalled hence the error.

continue with the reinstall
I'll wait 1 day to see if I get any event errors.
Before reinstalling ? I dont see any reason to wait.
ok.  I'll do it today
it's been installing for over 30 minutes.  Task manager does show it not responding.  Should I wait?
I'd kill it and try again, are there any events in eventvwr ?
Somethings not right.  I did the reinstall oh 3.0 SP1 and it said finished.  Normally it would start so it can be configured.  It didn't.  I rebooted and it doesn't even show installed.
Install sp2, be sure to go over prereqiusites


http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=a206ae20-2695-436c-9578-3403a7d46e40&displaylang=en


hang in there, we'll get it
see error
wsus2.png
I'll be gone for a while
Check for the old .mdb and .ldb files


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc708610%28WS.10%29.aspx


The removal of the application may not remove the default .mdb and .ldb files, which will cause a subsequent WSUS 3.0 installation to fail. These files can be deleted from the %windir%\SYSMSI\SSEE directory.

Post the wsussetup.log if that doesnt resolve it.
iT'S STATES THE ACTION IS ONLY VALID FOR PRODUCTS INSTALLED
The wsussetup.log states this?
I reviewed the release notes.  Everything meets the requirements.  I didn't finf any mdb of ldb files.  only mdf and ldf.  The last wsussetup.log on the server is 1/3/2010.
There's more than just requirements listed in the Release notes, there is also known problems/resolutions. Didn't need to know the date of the wsussetup.log...I needed to see it.
Sorry I've been out of town.  I'll be at the location tomorrow and get you the logs
Thanks for your patience.  Here is the log
WSUSSetup.log
did you have time to review the log?
Yes, sorry been real busy....I would go over all the steps in a manual removal again. Then try again
ok
The server crashed (won't boot) today.  I'm going to reinstall the OS.  What do you suggest I do about this open question.  I apologize that it didn't get fixed, but I greatly appreciate all your effort.
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Good info.  Thanks again
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