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Created very long folder path - cannot delete (PLEASE read first)

dgrrr
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I have read many posts here and elsewhere about related problems, and I have tried some of the solutions, but before I continue, I wanted to post so that I know I"m not wasing my time with unrelated fixes.
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IN XP Home, I used cobian backup program to accidentally save "K:\*.*" to "K:\backup - live files\K drive\K\"
(that was a mistake, obviously I meant it to go onto another drive)
It was running all night, so it may have created a VERY LONG CHAIN.

It created a very long chain of subfolders - it let me browse to this point:
K:\backup - live files\K drive\K\backup - live files\K drive\K\backup - live files\K drive\K\backup - live files\K drive\K\backup - live files\K drive\K\backup - live files\K drive\K\backup - live files\K drive\K\backup - live files\K drive\K\backup - live
files\

I renamed (shortened) as many folders as I could access, so now the path is:
K:\xdel\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\s\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\backup - live files\

I cannot enter, rename or move the last folder in the chain that I can access.

When I try to delete the folder it says:
Confirim file delete - the folder xdel contains items whose name is too long for the recycle bin. Permanently delete?
I say yes, then it says:
Error deleting file or folder - Cannot delete BACKUP~1: the file name you specified is not valid or too long.



I ran chkdsk /f /r for this but this did not help.

I tried RD /S (aka rmdir /s) but it said "Maximum path length exceeded". (thanks very much)

I tried the fix that uses a script and robocopy:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/tips/jsi-tip-9651-how-can-i-delete-a-folder-that-returns-path-too-long-.aspx
but that didn't work - the cmd box loaded about 10 screens of pathh names and then froze (with robocopy at 100% cpu usage)
NOTE - the path may be VERY VERY VERY LONG!

Some ppl say try xcopy too but I dno't see a delete switch. And if robocopy fails, I doubt xcopy would fail.

I tried the java app here:
http://www.osmstudios.com/Display.asp?Page=pathtoolong
but that didn't work

And I saw:
http://www.abtollc.com/product1733992.html
I don't want to pay for something if I don't know if it will work.

NOTE - I have seen these two fixes:
~ share the folder, then map a drive and delete from the mapped drive
letter.
~use the subst command to create a virtual drive and delete from Windows explorer all folders underneath

But so many ppl report that this does NOT WORK that I wanted to check here first.


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Jerry Miller

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Have your tried the rd command with /S switch?

rd /S <directory Name>
Jerry Miller

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Sorry, I missed that line in your post. I see now that you have tried it.
danubian

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Microsoft explains some stuff here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320081

The commercial solution http://www.pathtoolong.com will probably work for you.

Dick Lewis has some interesting scripting solutions which could be adapted to your scenario:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/task-scheduling/learn-how-to-error-proof-paths-and-creatively-manipulate-strings.aspx
http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/perl/real-world-scripting-locating-long-paths-in-a-directory.aspx

One more suggestion: did you tried to boot form a live Linux boot CD and delete folder from there ?
boing40001

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i always used subst in such situations and it always worked!

You need to create a drive letter that points to the middle of
your excessively long path, either as a substituted drive or as
a shared drive:

- Click Start / run / cmd {OK}
- Type either of these commands:
subst Q: "K:\xdel\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\s\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\backup - live files\"

or
net use Q: "\\%ComputerName%\k$\xdel\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\s\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\K\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\x\backup - live files\"

You can now access your files from drive Q:
romel_rms

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You're saying that the recycle bin doesn't take this long name, why don't you shift + delete them ?
dgrrr

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romel_rms:
I first tried deleting permanently without recycleing bin. Said "cannot delete".


boing40001:
I don't want to access files, I want to delete the folder path completely.

BUT > I did try SUBST and it got me further into the chain, but when I tried deleting folders within my new virtual folder, it still said, "maximum path lenght exceeded"

SO - I tried using SUBST with Q, then going as far down Q as I could, and then created drive "R", going deeper, and so on and so on, several drives in -- so I could get deep enough to start deleting - But it just kept going on, it didn't work. (Remember, the path may be very deep)


danubian:
I can't see how the commercial solution would be likely to work when all these others failed. FYI the relevant dick lewis page was pay. And I doubt playing with scripts will help me with my (low) level of knowledge.
I did try boot disks (see below) - do any of then qualify as "linux" boot disks?
Also, don't I need to know linux command line stuff to get around in linux?




to ALL - and danubian:
I did try boot disks - the ulitmate bootcd 4 windows, and the (reference to that CD deleted) book disk mini xp window. Neither could delete the folder. I tried running the roboxcopy fix (above) within minixp, but it failed. I tried going to a dos prompt with (reference to that CD deleted), but it didn't see any of my local drives. (?)

Is there another boot disk option I sHould try? (I tried knoppix but I think I need to burn a new disk, it kept failing to load)

If the above does NOT include "linux boot disk" optoin, please recommend a linux boot disk, and at least a tutorial on what commands I need to know. (I know nothing about linux command lines!)

thanks guys!
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Alan Hardisty
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I contacted the creators of Cobian, and they told me to use Cobian's built in "Deleter" tool. And it worked. (took about 10 mins)

I'm curious how it works so I asked him - will post here when he responds.
Jerry Miller

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It makes sense that if they have a tool that can create this mess for you, that they should be able to help you out of it with a different tool. Because they can obviously write these ridiculous long path names, deleting it should be included as well.

I am glad that you were able to get it corrected.
dgrrr

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agreed. I also think it would be wise for any backup program to automatically warn the user any time he or she is backing up a directory to somewhere inside of that same directory. (is there a name for that?)

The tool refers to "recursive deletion", but all deleters do that, right? Just means it keeps repeating some process until the result is achieved, right?
danubian

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Sorry for the late answer.
You could use http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download as an alternative Live CD. Burn the downloaded image and boot from CD  (you have to select "Try" to not install it, just run). Is not needed to be a Linux expert to make some files management with a live CD. There is a GUI interface.

Anyway, good to know you found a tool.
dgrrr

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Here's cobian's answer, regarding how his "deleter" tool works:

"You just need to pass the name of the files to delete with the prefix
\\?\ and use the unicode API functions (DeleteFileW)."

I don't know anything about the windows api (had to google it), but the issue of too long folder paths often seems to require unicode vs ansi version.