Can't Load TCP Console

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Sorry for the newb question. I really don't know much about Novell, but here is the scenario:

We have a dead novell server. So I have resurrected another novell server hoping to be able to restore some lost files on it. The problem is I don't know the IP address of this server. It is Novell 6.0 (I ran the "version" command to be sure, novell 6.0, server version 5.6?). The problem is when I try to do "load tcpcon" on the Novell console, I get an error "unable to find load file tcpcon". I also tried tcpcon.nlm and inetcfg.

Am I doing this wrong or is there another way I can find the address of this server? I am assuming once I can find that, I can connect to it using GUI tools from the existing administrator's workstation.
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Try LOAD EDIT SYS:\SYSTEM\AUTOEXEC.NCF

This is the "autoexec" file for NetWare.  Look for a 'BIND IP' command.

If it's not there, use INETCFG; look through the menus and you'll find the IP configuration.  When you load INETCFG, if you get a message asking to transfer the commands from the AUTOEXEC, stop there, and refer to the first hint.
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Ah, that what I was missing. I knew I needed to find the autoexec.ncf, but didn't know how to find it. I'll try that and post back.
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Type the following on the system console:

CONFIG

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If I type "config", it tells me the name of the server and the system uptime. So I assume there is nothing valuable there.

"LOAD EDIT SYS:\SYSTEM\AUTOEXEC.NCF" loads the editor, but gives me an error saying it can't find the file autoexec.ncf. I also tried search for it manually from within the editor and found nothing. Interesting, when I simply type autoexec.ncf into the file open line, I still get the file not found error, but it converts it to the long string like BudDurland specified.

Interesting to note, that when I quit the editor, I see the commands that executed to start the editor and one of them returns an error "No UDP or TCP/IP protocol primitives presently avaialble" and the same error for IPX/SPX.

I also tried "inetcfg" and "load inetcfg", but I get errors that the file name is invalid.

Even if I do get this going, the whole idea is to be able to restore some files to it that were backed up from another novell server using Arcserve. So even if I can get this server online, I still might have issues if it doesn't have a backup agent installed. So if anyone has any other suggestions about how to restore these files from tape, I would be interested to know.

Thanks.
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It seems that finding the IP for the server is the least of your problems. Is the Sys volume mounted?

In the system console type:

Volumes

But it seems to me that when you have two dead Netware servers it is probably better to try to fix the first one instead of another one from which you don't know anything at all.
What is the original problem with your dead server?
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When I run volumes, only _admin is mounted. I would expect to see the system volume as well?

As for the original server, it either blew its controller or one of the drives is bad (and no RAID). So the system won't recognize the drives on boot-up. The issue is we can't find any replacement drives that work with this controller and we tried building a new server, but the software won't install on the newer hardware because it doesn't recognize the hardware.
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I am also in the process of downloading a demo of Novell 6.5. Hopefully that helps, its... just... really... slow... to download. So there are still some options.

Last is of course, sending the tape to a recovery house, but that is the most expensive option.
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_Admin isn't a real physical volume but more of an api interface.

What you can try to do is find some hardware that is about the same age as the crashed server, and rebuild a server on that. As long as you have 1GB of memory,  an IDE controller and some diskspace and a network card you should be fine. Then install Arcserve and restore your tapes.

An alternative route is to install Arcserve on Windows, and restore your tapes there. The default config for Netware 6 volumes is NSS with no compression, and Arcserve for Windows should be able to restore your files on a windows platform.
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I will try to see if I can get the files to restore to Windows That would be ideal.

Additionally, I have downloaded a newer version of Novell based on SUSE Linux, but it seems different, so I don't know how compatible it will be.
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@deroode: As luck would have it, this backup was created using Arcserve for windows. I tried doing a restore and it says it crashed, but I will keep trying. I know the backup process itself is good since I was able to restore (albeit to a novell server) a month before this happened.
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If you have the install media for the original server it is best to install a new server as posted earlier, Install Arcserve and restore there. As long as the new server doesn't have SATA drives you should be fine with about any hardware. eBay is a good source for older server hardware.
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I am taking a two pronged approach, then. Building a Novell server first. At the same time, is it possible to restore a novell file backup to a windows system? I am seeing both answers in my research.
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With arcserve it is possible to restore to a different platform, as long as the Novell filesystem isn't compressed. In your case, on a Netware 6 platform compression was probably disabled, as compression in NSS was unreliable and thus not the default on installation.

Of course, in your backup software you have to indicate that you want to restore to a different server.
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I am going to repost this as a new question in order to get it in front of more eyes. Not that there are many Novell experts here, but I'll try. I hope you are able to continue helping me out.

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