How to Add SBS 2008 to SBS 2003 Domain

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We have SBS 2003 running Exchange 2003

We have installed SBS 2008 with Exchange 2007

SBS 2008 is built in it own domain and the Windows SBS 2003 is in its own domain.

How can I get the 2  server to join together as in a dcpromo or a trust reltionship?

We have tried both but it appears SBS 2003 and SBS 2008 dont allow this to happen.

Please help tressed out...
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you can't do it

SBS is designed to be a stand alone product that is in it's own domain - not to join an existing domain.
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Commented:
You cannot join an SBS to an existing domain it is one of the limitations. What you need to do is migrate your 2003 SBS domain to SBS 2008/Exchange 2007.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=52B7EA63-78AF-4A96-811E-284F5C1DE13B&displaylang=en
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Commented:
Also SBS does not support trusts between domains.
Tell a lie, here you go - http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/sbs-2008-migration-mode-settings(WS.10).aspx

You need to install SBS2008 in migration mode but at a guess, I'm guessing this isn't what you want to do.
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If you are interested in other migration options see the following:

My preference is the www.swingmigration.com method which allows you to do so very systematically and can revert back to previous stages easily. Though you have to purchase the kit it give yous some useful tools, excellent documentation and 90 days support
http://www.sbsmigration.com/pages/99/

demazter's article:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Microsoft_Operating_Systems/Server/SBS_Small_Business_Server/A_2465-Migrate-Windows-2003-with-Exchange-to-Small-Business-Server-2008.html

http://www.sbsmigration.com/pages/99/
MPESINC’s documentation for migrating SBS2003 to SBS2008
http://blog.mpecsinc.ca/2009/06/sbs-2003-to-sbs-2008-migration-guide.html

Karl Palachuk’s Migration to SBS 2003 and SBS 2008
http://blog.smallbizthoughts.com/2009/08/swing-migration-vs-zero-downtime.html
http://blog.smallbizthoughts.com/2009/08/swing-migration-vs-zero-downtime.html

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I thought as much all thanks for all your answers.

What about this;

The new sbs 2008 is the new domain, move everyone over then the old sbs 2003 demote then make it a memeber server to the sbs 2008.

On this sbs 2003 we have Invu document mangement system that uses SQL and we have Sage products, I want to keep these running on the old sbs 2003 just all data and exchnage on the new sbs 2008.

If I demote the sbs 2003 and join it to the new sbs 2008 domain as a memeber server will everyone still be able to access the Invu and sage stuff?

again thanks.
Top Expert 2013

Commented:
You cannot have two SBS servers, any version, on the same domain. You can add as many member servers as you like but they have to be server std, enterprise, or data center, and can be 2003 or2008.
If you demote SBS to make it a non-DC you violate the licensing agreement and I believe it will start shutting itself down after 7 days. SBS must be a DC, must hold all FSMO roles, and there can only be one SBS in a domain.

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Commented:
im guessing you cant upgrade sbs 2003 to windows server 2003 stnd?
Top Expert 2013
Commented:
There was a "Transition Pack" that allowed you to do that. It changed your licensing from SBS 2003 std, to server 2003, exchange 2003 (standalone), and allowed you to upgrade your CAL's. The cost was basically the difference between what you paid for SBS and your CALs vs the cost of buying it all separately. Where you wouldn't need Exchange 2003 I don't know that it would be cheaper. If you premium it addressed SQL as well. The transition pack is discontinued because it only converts to 2003 and not 2008, but you may find some retailers with it.

Personally I would buy a server 2008 Volume license with downgrade rights. This would allow you to install a previous version such as Server 2003 R2 std, 32 bit,  but be able to use migrate the license at a later date to server 2008 at no cost.

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Commented:
mmm bugger is the word...lol thank you for all your support an answers I was pretty sure you couldn't do it but you know you just have to ask.

cheers guys I might try the this transition pack if I can find one.

Top Expert 2013

Commented:
Thanks stevem200872.
Googling shows several site as having it available but the pricing seems to be several hundred dollars more than a server 2008 licenses. Keep in mind to there are different versions of the Transition pack SBS 2003, SBS 2003 R2 and I assume std and premium.
http://www.nextag.com/Microsoft-Small-Business-Server-510140308/prices-html

Good luck with the project.
Cheers!
--Rob

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