SBS 2008 migration failed, what now?

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For some time now I have tried to make a SBS 2008 migration from SBS 2003, but every attempt has failed miserably. I've every trick in the book without any luck, and I can't afford to keep trying. So what do I do now?

I haven't been able to find a guide on what to do when migration failes, but that's what I need.

The source server is still working, but it's not stable. And one HD in the RAID has faled already.
The new server is ready, I just have to port users, data and mail to it.

There's only 10 users and no Sharepoint, so it's no big job. Quite simple, really.

I'll have to do a complete install on the new server, and keep the source off the grid. This means removing every workstation from the domain, and rejoining them when the new serer is ready.

My only concern is the email. How do I securely move the mail from the server to the new one, without losing any of it in the process?

And is there any other problem, taht I havenøt figured out yet?
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It is not free, but will get the job done.

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Philip ElderTechnical Architect - HA/Compute/Storage
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First, here is our migration guide if you have not already seen it:
http://blog.mpecsinc.ca/2009/06/sbs-2003-to-sbs-2008-migration-guide.html

Pay particular attention to the SBS 2003 preparation steps.

Did the SBS 2003 Best Practices Analyzer come up clean? Was AD in Journal Wrap?

Doing a fresh install and a side-by-side migration has its own thorns to deal with. Things like Public Folders data and Exchange based data that is shared among users gets disjointed.

You can put a fresh SBS 2008 on the same subnet as your SBS 2003, but make sure that SBS 2003 has at least the SBS 2008 Migration Tool run against it to extend the countdown timer for side-by-side SBS migrations.

Philip

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@Cinc
I've been looking at it, and if I had been smart, I had chose the solution from the beginning... :-)
But since I haven't been able to pinpoint the problem, I might be stuck in the same situation even with the swing migration.

@MPEC
Oh yes, I've read your guide, it's great!
I've been very thorough in my preparation, checking every bit of the source to figure out where the problem is. By now I'm down to a missing driver - that I can't install before the installation fails.
I'm not sure it's the only problem, but it's the only one in the logs.

I know there might be problem with side-by-side as well, but I not as nervous as risking to carry on with the standard migration and faiilng later on - ending up with two non-working servers... (been there, done that!)

The current installation isn't uisng Public Folder or share Exchange data, so it might be quite simple to do it.

Can you point me to any migration guide on the side-by-side way? Or should I merely look for Exchange migrations?
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Philip ElderTechnical Architect - HA/Compute/Storage

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You can SHFT+F10 during the install phase on SBS 2008 and head into the c:\program files\windows small business server\logs and copy the content onto a USB drive either using CMD or Windows Explorer (Start Explorer.exe).

Do you have any of those logs?

Also, do you have a System State backup for the Source? NTBackup --> Backup --> System State only to USB flash or the like. Should be around a MB or so.

Philip
Philip ElderTechnical Architect - HA/Compute/Storage

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BTW, Jeff's method is also dependent on the source network's health ... though he provides support help when his package is purchased.

We use his Swing method as well as the MS method depending on the client's needs.

Philip

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I've been looking at log files 'till my eyes popped out, and then asked for second opinions. As long as the migration process isn't giving me any information on the cause, I'm walking in the dark here.
"The migration failed..." Yeah, right! :(


Anyway, this still isn't helping me in doing the 'transformation" manually. The migration process isn't working, and I can't afford spendng more time on trying to figure out what ever is causing it to stop.

I need help on how to make it happen without it. Imagine the old server is broken...

I can create users manually (only about 10 of them), transfer data with robocopy - but what would be the best way to get all the email safely transfered?
Should I export to .pst from the single user, or do it from the server?
Would it better to import email database from backup and connect the ghost mailboxes to the new users?
Philip ElderTechnical Architect - HA/Compute/Storage
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Export to PST import to PST using ExMerge.
http://blog.mpecsinc.ca/2008/07/sbs-exchange-information-store-is.html

Instructions are there. You get the server as well as client data using ExMerge. Export from e-mail client misses some content.

See this for the caveats of doing an export to PST method:
http://blogs.technet.com/b/sbs/archive/2009/05/21/cannot-reply-to-old-emails-or-modify-old-calendar-items-after-pst-mail-migration.aspx

Philip
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I recommend the Swing Migration kit. As Philip says, it is dependent on your source network health, BUT:
1) The documentation is *VERY* thorough and *very* clear. This means you stand a much better chance of *getting* your source network healthy before making the attempt. Instead of trying to stare at logs as you have been, you may read step 4 and go "Oh! THAT'S why I got that error!!!"  Happens more often than you think.
2) It comes with a couple of support incidents. So instead of you trying to fly the migration solo, you get access to an expert in the field. Granted, this is "experts exchange"...but not quite the same, is it.  :)
 

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I decided to try out the Swing Migration kit - hopefully it turns out to be a valid solution.
Philip ElderTechnical Architect - HA/Compute/Storage

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Good stuff. Jeff is an excellent resource.

Thanks for that!

Philip

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