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exchange 2003 cant sync phones after emergency restore
Posted on 2010-08-28
We had a drive go out in our exchange 2003 server and had to restore it from a backup. We used backup exec to restore it to a new machine. Everything seems to work exctly as it did before with one exception. The phones do not receive push updates from exchange unless there computers are on and outlook is open.
What I did to verify this:
1) had a user turn off her machine.
2) had another user send her a couple test messages.
3) waited 30 minutes to verify that the mail was not coming to the phone
4) jumped in my car and drove about two miles down the road to make sure that I was not connected to anything like bluetooth that would other wise sync the phone.
5) verified that the phone was connected to the carriers network (AT&T 3G network) by browsing.
6) called back to the office while I was still two miles down the road and had the owner of the phone startup the machine, but not turn on outlook. I waited 10 minutes to verify that no messages were coming through
7)had the user startup outlook. With in 30 seconds of the user starting up outlook the messages started appearing on the phone.
8) drove back to the office scratching my head.
I have verified this with both smartphones (windows mobile 6.1) and iphones. The blackberries that simply use pop3 seem to work just fine. These users need there calendar, tasks, etc so I cant just set them up on pop3. Right now, as a work around, I just have them leaving there computers on and locking there desktops when they leave, but this is not a viable long term solution.
products used:
exchange 2003 on SBS 2003 server
outlook 2003 and 2007
Iphones
windows mobile 6.1
Thank you for your help
What I did to verify this:
1) had a user turn off her machine.
2) had another user send her a couple test messages.
3) waited 30 minutes to verify that the mail was not coming to the phone
4) jumped in my car and drove about two miles down the road to make sure that I was not connected to anything like bluetooth that would other wise sync the phone.
5) verified that the phone was connected to the carriers network (AT&T 3G network) by browsing.
6) called back to the office while I was still two miles down the road and had the owner of the phone startup the machine, but not turn on outlook. I waited 10 minutes to verify that no messages were coming through
7)had the user startup outlook. With in 30 seconds of the user starting up outlook the messages started appearing on the phone.
8) drove back to the office scratching my head.
I have verified this with both smartphones (windows mobile 6.1) and iphones. The blackberries that simply use pop3 seem to work just fine. These users need there calendar, tasks, etc so I cant just set them up on pop3. Right now, as a work around, I just have them leaving there computers on and locking there desktops when they leave, but this is not a viable long term solution.
products used:
exchange 2003 on SBS 2003 server
outlook 2003 and 2007
Iphones
windows mobile 6.1
Thank you for your help
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An extract from my Exchange 2003 / Activesync article should resolve this issue for you. Please add the following registry key and see if all is well:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Server_Software/Email_Servers/Exchange/A_1798.html
If you are getting inconsistent Synchronisation from your :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\
ProactiveScanning REG_DWORD 1
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Server_Software/Email_Servers/Exchange/A_1798.html
If you are getting inconsistent Synchronisation from your :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\
ProactiveScanning REG_DWORD 1
wow that's a really interesting situation you're in there.
have you reattached the phones to the activesync server, or do you have the same settings as pre-crash?
are you sure the phones are set to activesync and not some 3rd party desktop redirector software?
with outlook closed on related machines, what do you get from www.testexchangeconnectivity.com when testing for activesync?
is the server the same name, how about your SSL certificate if any?
have you reattached the phones to the activesync server, or do you have the same settings as pre-crash?
are you sure the phones are set to activesync and not some 3rd party desktop redirector software?
with outlook closed on related machines, what do you get from www.testexchangeconnectivity.com when testing for activesync?
is the server the same name, how about your SSL certificate if any?
this is what I changed
Exchange Virtual Directory
• Authentication = Integrated & Basic || was Basic only
• Default Domain = junk || was \
• Realm = junk.local || was just blank
Microsoft-Server-Activesyn
• Realm = junk || was blank
OMA Virtual Directory
• Realm = junk || was just blank
Exchange-oma Virtual Directory
• Default Domain = junk || was \
• Realm = junk || was just blank
tested this and seems to be fine. Ill have to wait till monday to see if this fixed it.
Exchange Virtual Directory
• Authentication = Integrated & Basic || was Basic only
• Default Domain = junk || was \
• Realm = junk.local || was just blank
Microsoft-Server-Activesyn
• Realm = junk || was blank
OMA Virtual Directory
• Realm = junk || was just blank
Exchange-oma Virtual Directory
• Default Domain = junk || was \
• Realm = junk || was just blank
tested this and seems to be fine. Ill have to wait till monday to see if this fixed it.
have you reattached the phones to the activesync server, or do you have the same settings as pre-crash?
we have identical settings
are you sure the phones are set to activesync and not some 3rd party desktop redirector software?
this is why i took the phone out of the office. i wanted to make sure they were not syncing with third party tools. the phones are set to active sync
with outlook closed on related machines, what do you get from www.testexchangeconnectivity.com when testing for activesync?
tests fine except for certificate. they have never had a valid cert from a third party
is the server the same name, how about your SSL certificate if any?
they have never had a valid cert from a third
we have identical settings
are you sure the phones are set to activesync and not some 3rd party desktop redirector software?
this is why i took the phone out of the office. i wanted to make sure they were not syncing with third party tools. the phones are set to active sync
with outlook closed on related machines, what do you get from www.testexchangeconnectivity.com when testing for activesync?
tests fine except for certificate. they have never had a valid cert from a third party
is the server the same name, how about your SSL certificate if any?
they have never had a valid cert from a third
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The Default Domain / Realm are not generally mission critical, but I have seen instances where they were not present and Activesync did not work, but adding them made it work again!
as far as I can tell this did not work, but I am taking there word for it. I have not gone there and visually checked myself.
another newly found piece. The outlook 2003 clients appear to be defaulting to offline, and randomly switching to offline.
another newly found piece. The outlook 2003 clients appear to be defaulting to offline, and randomly switching to offline.
ill see if i can install sp2 again tonight.
just want to verify one thing. You do not need an ssl cert besides the default one on exchange 2003 in order to sync phones?
I am asking because i thought you did on exch 2007 and 2010
just want to verify one thing. You do not need an ssl cert besides the default one on exchange 2003 in order to sync phones?
I am asking because i thought you did on exch 2007 and 2010
one other update:
someone here called at&t told them that this version of exchange is no longer supporteed by there at&t. they want to charge about 20/person to enable phone syncing. sounds like a scam, but i thought i would ask.
someone here called at&t told them that this version of exchange is no longer supporteed by there at&t. they want to charge about 20/person to enable phone syncing. sounds like a scam, but i thought i would ask.
that is for certain a scam, it has been proven time and time again that you DONT need anything special from at+t for activesync.
however, the newest update for iphone (version 4?) does have issues with exchange... same with the latest android froyo update (2.2)
for the droids, i've made them work by changing the iis ssl cert binding to IGNORE client certificates rather than the default "accept"
some mobile devices simply will NOT accept self-signed certs as they're technically invalid
sometimes you can get around this by installing the self-signed cert to the phone itself (i don't know how to do this tho), other times the phone will let you checkmark "accept all certificates"
this is similar to internet explorer 7+8 how it always shows a red address bar for self-signed certs, and you have to click "connect anyway (not recommended)"
same with firefox - you have to add an exception
(unless you add the self signed cert to your enterprise trust store)
however, the newest update for iphone (version 4?) does have issues with exchange... same with the latest android froyo update (2.2)
for the droids, i've made them work by changing the iis ssl cert binding to IGNORE client certificates rather than the default "accept"
some mobile devices simply will NOT accept self-signed certs as they're technically invalid
sometimes you can get around this by installing the self-signed cert to the phone itself (i don't know how to do this tho), other times the phone will let you checkmark "accept all certificates"
this is similar to internet explorer 7+8 how it always shows a red address bar for self-signed certs, and you have to click "connect anyway (not recommended)"
same with firefox - you have to add an exception
(unless you add the self signed cert to your enterprise trust store)
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With Self-Signed Certificates, the name on the certificate has to be a Fully Qualified Domain Name (e.g., mail.yourdomain.com) and the name must resolve in DNS to the IP Address of your server.
3rd Party SSL certificates can be easier to implement / use and are cheap to buy for Exchange 2003 as only a single name SSL cert is required.
On some mobile phones, if the cert is self-issued, it will have to be installed onto the phone for it to work happily (due to the lack of trust), so this is another reason why 3rd Party SSL certificates can make life easier and save you money in the long run, depending on how many devices you have to install the certificate to.
3rd Party SSL certificates can be easier to implement / use and are cheap to buy for Exchange 2003 as only a single name SSL cert is required.
On some mobile phones, if the cert is self-issued, it will have to be installed onto the phone for it to work happily (due to the lack of trust), so this is another reason why 3rd Party SSL certificates can make life easier and save you money in the long run, depending on how many devices you have to install the certificate to.
ok - its all working.
went back through this to make sure i was covering everything:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Server_Software/Email_Servers/Exchange/A_1798.html
turns out
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\
ProactiveScanning REG_DWORD 1
recomended by alanhardisty in the first post was getting reset back to 0 by AVG. So even though i would manually set it, the program would set it back. I went in avg and selected proactive and background. Then went back into the registry and told it to reset the av. Then everyone got there emails.
still have one odd issue but i dont think it is related. One user on a mobile 6.1 device can only receive phone calls when her computer is on and outlook is loaded. I have not verified this yet for myself. Will be seeing her tomorrow hopefully.
went back through this to make sure i was covering everything:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Server_Software/Email_Servers/Exchange/A_1798.html
turns out
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\
ProactiveScanning REG_DWORD 1
recomended by alanhardisty in the first post was getting reset back to 0 by AVG. So even though i would manually set it, the program would set it back. I went in avg and selected proactive and background. Then went back into the registry and told it to reset the av. Then everyone got there emails.
still have one odd issue but i dont think it is related. One user on a mobile 6.1 device can only receive phone calls when her computer is on and outlook is loaded. I have not verified this yet for myself. Will be seeing her tomorrow hopefully.
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>>One user on a mobile 6.1 device can only receive phone calls when her computer is on and outlook is loaded<<
Very weird, I have never seen this sort of problem before. I would suggest resetting the device (removing Activesync profile), then re-adding it. If that fails, Hard Reset the device and set it up again.
Glad that the other issue is resolved and sorry that AVG messed with the setting. Pesky software : )
Thanks for the points.
Alan
Very weird, I have never seen this sort of problem before. I would suggest resetting the device (removing Activesync profile), then re-adding it. If that fails, Hard Reset the device and set it up again.
Glad that the other issue is resolved and sorry that AVG messed with the setting. Pesky software : )
Thanks for the points.
Alan
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