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I have a virtual server that was a 60gb thick disk. I used vmotion to move it to another datastore and changed it from thick to thin but its still 60gb on the datastore but inside the vm its only using 30gb of the 60gb disk. How can i get the vmdk to size down to just the used space like thin is suppose to work. This is on vmware ESX 4.0
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by:Paul Solovyovsky
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rescan the controller and/or refresh the VI Client.
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by:cisconoshut
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that makes no difference the size is still 60gb on the datastore.
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was this machines HDD any time filled up to close to 60Gb?
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Yes its also a p2v.
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Take a look at the summary page for the Virtual machine - under resources does it show a difference between provisioned size and used storage? Or in the Datastore browser a difference between Size and Provisioned Size?

Often it is a VM that has been around for a while, space won't be reclaimed if it isn't set to binary zeros. There is a Microsoft Sysinternals tool that (for Windows anyway) called sdelete (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897443.aspx) that will clear unused space to binary zeros - then another storage vmotion to thin will reclaim all that unused space.

Usage: sdelete -c c:
if c: is the drive to reclaim

If it isn't a Windows OS let me know what it is. I believe I found such a tool for Linux at one time but off the top of my head I can't recall what it is.

Good Luck

 
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by:Danny McDaniel
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are you using NFS storage by chance?
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as bgoering said. if it was full one time even if the files were deleted vmware may not be able to see any clear white spaces. defrag and zero the emprty space and try.
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you could cat out the descriptor file to verify that the disk is actually supposed to be thin.  It should have the line ddb.thinProvisioned = "1" within it.  See http://virtualbox-provenpractice.blogspot.com/2009/04/thick-disk-to-thin-disk.html if you are unsure how to do this.
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You should not even have to defrag (though that is not a bad idea for other reasons) if all you want to do is recover the physical disk space. If you do decide to defrag, do it before zero the unused space otherwise you will have used space wherever defrag moved files or file fragments around.
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You will need to reclaim that storage space.  Because the disk was originally thick, all 60 GB was allocated.  Then you converted it to thin....  The thick to thin conversion does just that, convert.  It does not reclaim the 30 GB of "empty" space.  Check out this article.
http://www.virtualizationteam.com/virtualization-vmware/vsphere-virtualization-vmware/vmware-esx-4-reclaiming-thin-provisioned-disk-unused-space.html 
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Thanks so much that solved my issue.
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