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I'm running small business server 2008 which comes with SQL 2005.

I just got the full version of SQL 2008 and upgraded successfully (according to the install wizard)

Now I want to install the SQL 2008 Management Studio.  I downloaded that from MS and when I click on it it starts the SQL install program.  On the 2nd step - Installation - I select "New SQL Server stand-alone installation or add features to an existing installation" but when I go through the steps it fails at the Installation Rules step  at "SQL Server 2005 Express Tools" with the message that "The SQL Server 2005 Express Tools are installed.  To continue, remove the SQL Server 2005 Express Tools."

I don't understand how that message could come up if I successfully upgraded from 2005 to 2008.  So I have 2 questions:

1) Since I upgraded to 2008, is it safe to uninstall 2005?  It seems to me running 2 versions of SQL on the same server might be unstable, but then why didn't the upgrade uninstall 2005?

2) Is there another way to get the SQL 2008 Management Studio installed?  I must have that.

Thanks in advance for your replies.
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Depending on how you installed 2005 (assuming express), the tools were likely installed separately.  So what happened is that the DB engine was upgraded but your tools were not.  You need to uninstall the SQL 2005 Express tools and install the 2008.

To install management studio in 2008, go to add/remove programs, find SQL 2008 and right click > uninstall/change.  Then go through and choose the add features option and add client tools.
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I didn't install SQL 2005, it came built-in with the SBS 2008 Server install.

I know I need to uninstall the 2005 (not Express) tools but what I don't understand is why 2005 is still there at all if I successfully upgraded to 2008.  

Also, in Programs and Features, I don't have SQL 2008.  I have "Microsoft SQL 2008 Setup Support Files" and "Microsoft SQL Upgrade Advisor."  Do I need to reboot the server to get the SQL 2008 to show up there?  If I upgraded sucessfully (as the upgrade wizard told me - there were no errors) then why doesn't what you're describing appear there?
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You should attach to your instance and run the following to see what you are actually running.


SELECT @@VERSION

10.5 = 2008 R2
10.x = 2008
9.x = 2005
8.x = 2000
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How do I attach to my instance?  I hate to sound dumb but I'm no SQL expert, not by a long shot.  That's why I'm getting help here.

Thanks.
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Run SQL Server Management Studio and open a new query window to the database server.
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I only have SQL Server Management Studio 2005.  Part of what I'm trying to do is get the 2008 Management Studio installed.

When I open a new querry it says 9.0 SP2, so does that mean it didn't actually upgrade even though it told me it did?
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I could blow away SQL 2005 and install 2008 clean, but the SBSMONITORING is using 2005 and isn't that what runs sharepoint?  I don't want to mess that up, but I need to be running SQL 2008
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>> When I open a new querry it says 9.0 SP2, so does that mean it didn't actually upgrade even though it told me it did?

Yes


>> I could blow away SQL 2005 and install 2008 clean, but the SBSMONITORING is using 2005 and isn't that what runs sharepoint?  I don't want to mess that up, but I need to be running SQL 2008

Can you be sure that your software is compatible with 2008?
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Which software?  I have a 3rd party program that is compatible with 2008 and I need to restore the db from a 2008 .bak file.

Or do you mean the software that came built into the sbserver?
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Both I guess.  Usually it is a bad idea to do an in-place upgrade of SQL 2005 to 2008.  It is best to stand up a new 2008 server then migrate to it.  The reason is that you have no rollback plan in the event of an upgrade, or other, failure.
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What about having both on 1 server?
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You can run multiple instances as long as you have a license.  If you bought an upgrade license of 2008, then you can't continue to use 2005.
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I have a full license for 2008 but when I tried to install a standalone I got the error about the 2005 tools
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Well you can always for 2005 use the add/remove programs to remove the 2005 tools, then install full 2008.
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Ok I'll try that and let you know what happens.  Thanks.
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This worked - thanks a lot!
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