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What would be a good sun server for oracle 11g database and 250-300 concurrent conections and 16 GB RAM with good disk.

I also want to install linux red hat on it. I am not sure if the SPARC supports that or i should go x 86/x 64 processor
I was looking at this but not sure if it is good or not.

SUN FIRE X4800 SERVER
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I'd suggest RH5 x64 (no support for sparc until RH6).  go with at least 32gb; 4 cpu, and for your disks, raid 10.
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Why do you want to install Red Hat on a Sun server?  Since Sun has been purchased by Oracle, you should be able to get all your support in one place (theoretically) is you stay with Solaris.  I would also think the database will become more tightly integrated with the OS and you will start to see advantages to running on Sun and Solaris.
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because client is not comfortable with solaris.
which machine line i can run linux on sun machines?

the problem with 4 cpus is the oracle license. i want to minimize that so i am looking for dual core CPU ( 2 processors).

do you have a link forRH5 x64?
is this better than sunfire x4800
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If you want only 2 sockets, then the 4800 is not an option since it offers only 4 or 8.

You could look at the x4470 which has the option for 2 sockets

http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/servers/x86/sun-fire-x4470-server-077286.html

What do you mean link for RH5 x64?  For download?
You can do a trial download here:

http://www.redhat.com/rhel/details/eval/

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I thought RH x64 was a server. that is red hat 5 x 64 O/S.

Would those sun servers be better that Dell poweedge or HP proliant for hosting database server on linux.

any recomendaations.
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For the intel/amd architecture, you have a 32bit and 64bit versions of the Red Hat 5 operating system.  You would need 64bit version for this.

In my datacenter, 90% of my systems are Dell and only a few are Sun.  I've had very little issues with these Sun servers and they have longer warranty coverage (7 years beyond end of production).

In this case to fit the needs of an Oracle database server, your equivalent Dell option (we don't use HP here so not too familiar with the proliant line) would be a PowerEdge R910.

I customized a sun x4470 with 2 xeon E7530 (total 12 cores) with 32gb memory, 4 300gb disks configures as raid 10 then configured a Dell R910 with the same config (memory, disks, processors) and included 1 year Red Hat 5 subscription and the price was about $9,000 less than the sun server-and the x4470 only had the option to install Solaris; it does support Red Hat but isn't on the config page.

This is just a rough config, but if money is a factor, Dell is less expensive.  I also found managing the servers so much easier than the sun fire.  You can use Dell OpenManage to manage your hardware configuration.  I found the Sun ILOM not the easiest when trying to accomplish the same things-although I'm not sure if there have been any significant changes to the ILOM in these newer servers.

Just my $0.02
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what was the price on dell R910?

someone said that dell server are less quality thtn HP and sun because they are new to the server space? is this correct. How is your experience with them

do you also recommend tower or rack server?

iamalso trying to minimize the oracle license cost.
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The Sun server was just over $20,000 while the Dell was just under $12,000.

They need to be more specific as to what they mean by "less quality" and "new to server space".  We purchased our first Dell server in 2001 so they are hardly new to this.  In the 3 years I've been at this place, yeah we've had issues - mostly drive failures - but that is mainly because there previously was no sort of maintenance and so without updated drive firmware, (and BIOS, etc) it increased risk.  These days, I have very very few issues with Dell servers.  It's been over a year since I first got my R710's and I haven't had any issues with them.

Rack or tower depends on your needs.  If you prefer a tower, then look at the T series power edge.  (R-rack, T-tower, M-module (blade))
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what do you think of the Sun Ultrasparc machines compare to Dell. I heard they are very powerful but i do not think they can run Linux though
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Red Hat 5 is not supported on that architecture.

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/
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