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How do I upgrade hard drives in a RAID 1 configuration with Windows 7?

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I shut down the PC.
I removed one of the 160 GB drives and replaced it with a 1TB drive.
I then rebuild it.
I then shut down PC.
I then replace the other 160GB HD with the 1 TB drive.
I rebuild it.
But now I only see 160 GB volume.
Why is there not a 1 TB volume.
I had two partions to start with.
I disconnected that partition and left it unallocated.
How do I make the PC recognize the 1TB volume?
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Question by:j_rameses
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by:andy_maskell
ID: 33684999
Raid 1 is mirroring. If you rebuild the raid it will only rebuild it to the same as the main drive which is still 160GB. The best thing to do if you want the full TB is to buy a second 1TB drive (preferably identical) break the raid and boot with the single 1TB drive. Either create a new partition on the free space or extend the partition, which you may have to do using specialist partitioning software or may be able to do through Windows Disk Management. Then once you have the disk space you want add the new second 1TB drive and recreate the RAID
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by:j_rameses
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I did install the second identical 1TB drive already but it only recognizes 160GB.
Please provide me with exact details on what to do now so I can proceed.
I am not computer savvy.
I do have partitioning software.
Thank you.
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by:jamietoner
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Do you see the any unpartitioned space in disk management?
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by:andy_maskell
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If you right click on the Computer icon and go to Manage you will find the Windows Disk Management. This shows you the size and space used on the disk. If it shows unused space then you can right click on it and create new volume. Leave it at the maximum size and format it. You will then have 2 partitions. If you want a single partition just run your Partition software and extend the partition.
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by:andy_maskell
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As an after thought, I'm presuming this is fairly new hardware and not some old pc that you have installed Windows 7 on. I ask because there was a time when the bios wouldn't support large disks.
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by:QEMS2
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As andy_maskell: said raid 1 is mirroring, i would image one of the drives, so you have all of your data ect in the image.
Then i would install just one of the 1tb hard drives and roll the image out to that (at this point check it allows you to access the full 1tb, it should, if not check disk management and see the size of the drive)
I would then slap the second hard drive in and setup the raid again and copy the drive you have just rolled the image to to the new blank 1tb and then the raid should be set up with the full drive space.

here is a link for clonezilla a free disk imaging tool:
http://www.clonezilla.org/


hope this helps
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33691528
I checked disk management and there is no unpartitioned space.  All there is is the 100 MB space reserved and the 149GB of drive C.  I am using EASUS PArtition Master for parttioning.  That software does not even recognize 1 TB only 149 GB.  What steps can I take (in detail-because I am new to computers) to fix this problem.  I need the system to recognize the 1 TB.
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by:andy_maskell
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So is it an old PC? If so try a bios update on the motherboard.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33693156
Its a brand new computer.  It is about 6 months old.
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by:andy_maskell
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OK break the raid and boot from one drive. The second drive should show up as a D: or E: drive. Go into Disk Management, right click on this second drive and delete the Volume. The drive should then show up as a 1TB drive. Use your partition software, which I think comes with a cloning/copy facility, to copy the 160GB partition to the 1TB unformated drive. You will also want to resize it to 1TB as part of the clone. Once you have done this, close down the PC, swap the drives over and rebuild your raid using the 1TB as the master.
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by:j_rameses
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SO the drive connected to disk/port0 is the master?
So I will enter the CTRL-I feature at bootup and select the option to break the RAID.
Then I will go into the disk management tool from (right-click my computer, select manage).
From there I select disk 1 and delete that volume.
Then I clone the disk 0 to the new volume (1TB).
Resiz that cloned disk to 1TB.
Then I will turn off PC and switch drives from port 1 to port 0(port/disk 0 is the master).
Then I will turn on the PC and select the option CTRL-I to rebuild the RAID.
CTRL-I is the configuration utility on a Dell PC.
Then when I finish this I goto the disk matrix management feature and rebuild the RAID from one drive to the other to transfer/copy the data over?
Then I use the partition software to make my partitions.
In case my partition software does not have a cloning/copy feature what software can I use?
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by:andy_maskell
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SO the drive connected to disk/port0 is the master?
So I will enter the CTRL-I feature at bootup and select the option to break the RAID.
Then I will go into the disk management tool from (right-click my computer, select manage).
From there I select disk 1 and delete that volume.
Then I clone the disk 0 to the new volume (1TB).
Resiz that cloned disk to 1TB.
Then I will turn off PC and switch drives from port 1 to port 0(port/disk 0 is the master).
Then I will turn on the PC and select the option CTRL-I to rebuild the RAID.
CTRL-I is the configuration utility on a Dell PC.

Up to here you have to do, although I would boot the PC with the single disk before recreating the raid, just to make sure the clone was successful.
When you go into the disk matrix, you just create a RAID 1 array from the new master, as long as it allows you to do so without destroying the data on the master.
Any partitions you wish to make should be made on the single drive before recreating the raid, as it's most likely that your partition software will not recognise the raid disks.
According to the EASUS website the free master partitioning software does include cloning.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33702512
Why can't I create the partitions after the RAID?
I used the software EASUS before to make partitions with the RAID.
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by:andy_maskell
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You can if it supports it. I just wasn't sure if it would recognise the raided disk.
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by:j_rameses
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I will be coming in to work this Saturday to fix the PC.
This is the company owner's computer and I can not do anything to it while she is here.
Will you be online tomorrow?
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by:andy_maskell
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At some point during the day I will log on, but not sure what time, I will keep an eye out on the thread.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33702636
I will be on in the morning.
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by:j_rameses
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andy_maskell, I am in the office now.  I just turned on the PC and backing up the files.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33707788
Andy,


I am in the Matrix:
5 options available but 2 that I am not sure which to choose from:
2) Delete Raid Volume
3) Reset disks to Non-RAID

Which of the two do I choose from?
I think its 3.
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by:andy_maskell
ID: 33707864
To break the raid yes it's 3
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33707877
I chose option 3.
I am in disk management and it does not let me delete the volume.
I tried it also from the partition software and it does not let me.
It shows that disk 0 is part of a RAID.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33707881
right now its doing a partition recovery from the EASUS software.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33707886
should I cancel the partition recovery.  It has 25 minutes to go.  Its been 5 minutes.
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by:andy_maskell
ID: 33707889
In disk management is it showing 2 drives?
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by:j_rameses
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yes,  it is showing 2 drives.
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by:andy_maskell
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What partition are you trying to recover?
Do you have some Dell Matrix software within windows?
If so look in there and there should be an option to remove the drive from the raid array or reset it.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33707912
I am on the intel matrix
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33707927
This is what I see from the Intel matrix.
See attachment.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33707930
I cancelled the partition recovery.
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by:andy_maskell
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This shows the raid hasn't been broken. I'm guessing you have booted up the system on the non raid disk, so you should be able to remove the Array_0000. Select it and under the actions menu there should be a delete or some such command.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33707960
If i right-click on Array_0000 i get the options :
        create volume
        disable HD data-cache

If I right-click on Volume0, i get the options:
      modify volume
       delete volume
     enable volume write-back  cache

WHich should i Choose?
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by:andy_maskell
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delete the volume
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33707970
I get a mssg:  "This is a system volume that cannot be deleted."
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by:andy_maskell
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Then I guess you have booted up on the raid not the single drive. When you boot press F12 to get the list of boot options and choose the single drive not the raid. Then you should be able to delete it
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by:j_rameses
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You mentioned:
"This shows the raid hasn't been broken. I'm guessing you have booted up the system on the non raid disk, so you should be able to remove the Array_0000. Select it and under the actions menu there should be a delete or some such command"

When I chose option 3 to reset disks to non-raid, it asked me which disk.
I chose disk 1 becasue disk 0 is the master I believe .
It said to choose one and it will lose the data if it is reset.
For that reason I chose disk 1.
Then another mssg came about deleted so i cancelled.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33707987
I will try that no. choosing F12.
I will be on another PC so I can read your posts.
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by:andy_maskell
ID: 33708001
If that doesn't work it's not an issue as you have one drive which has been removed from the array anyway. We can deal with that later. Send a print screen of the disk management.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33708002
it showed disk 0 & 1 from boot menu.
I tried choosing option disk 1 but it did not let me.
It through to startup repair
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by:andy_maskell
ID: 33708019
then boot from 0 and give a print screen
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by:j_rameses
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it did not let me choose.
I am going to build the RAID again while I am gone because I have to leave for home.
I will make another attempt on Monday.
If it does not work again on Monday I am just going to do a clean install.
What u think?
Maybe you can call me Monday if you are in the states.
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by:andy_maskell
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I'm in the UK. It may well be easiest for you to do a clean install if you have all the data backed up and program disks. It will take about the same time as to that as to clone and reset the disks.
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33708045
Ok.
I will do that then.
Thank you.
Is there something I need to do to the disks before I do a clean install?
Or all I have to do is install Windows again it will then recognize the drives a a 1TB instead of a 160GB?
But do I have to still rebuild the drive before I re-install Windows?
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by:andy_maskell
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No you will have to delete the raid from the bios raid setup and create a new one. This will then create a full size array of 1TB. ie Option 2 Delete RAID Volume
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by:j_rameses
ID: 33708075
So I then will delete the RAID volume and then create the RAID volume and then install WIndows?
Did I understand you correctly??
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by:andy_maskell
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You may need to download the driver for the raid for the new install to recognise it, although it is likely Windows 7 will recognise it straight off. Good luck.
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by:andy_maskell
ID: 33708082
Yes thats correct.
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by:j_rameses
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Well, thank you Andy.
I will do that next week on Saturday morning when the owner is not in the office and I won't be rushed.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.
Thank you.
SHould I close this question on EE?  Or how should I take care of it?
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andy_maskell earned 500 total points
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Well if you feel I have helped you you should award the points, otherwise close it I guess.
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by:j_rameses
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My PC did not let me continue as per instructions.
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