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RE: Windows 7 Back Up - System Image Backup Issue -- Error: 0x80780119???

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Hello. I am trying to use Windows 7 Back Up to Create a system image. Now, I get an error message at the initial start of creating a system image. Please see attached screen clipping. It is a long paragraph description. It concerns: 0x80780119.

I was told by someone to create the system image first then go ahead and back up files. This makes sense to me. So I click on "Create a system image" on the "Backup and Restore" screen. Now, this is the first time I am making a System Image backup. Mind you, I did not make a complete regular file/data backup yet. I actually cancelled it while it was backing up because I wanted to make a System Image backup first (like a baseline), then I will go ahead and makeup smaller file/data backups AFTER that.

Now, it sounds like the Windows message is saying that I do not have any disk space. That is not true at all!!! Is Windows 7 Back Up giving me some crap or is there something going on I do not see??? I have created earlier a clean 250 GB partition space on another hard drive and the partition is empty. I started to create a file backup earlier as I said above (That I cancelled.) and it contained some files. I cleaned them out to make way for the System Image file. This is a rather new Windows 7 install so the small size of the 50.3 GB of 146 GB OS system partition. I do have that System Reserved 100 MB partition on this same hard drive Windows 7 is on. Does that System Reserved partition cause any issues?

Am I doing something wrong? Maybe. ...Or is Windows having issues?

Please help. If you have any questions, please ask me.

Thank you! Create A System Image - WIndows 7  - Issue Pic.
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by:ken2421
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Reboot and set shadow copy to automatic.

Post your results.

Thanks,
Ken
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by:TechnoTroy
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@ ken2421:

Thank you for your reply..

May I ask how to set the shadow copy to automatic??? Over my head here. Now, am I ask do I reboot after as well as I make this change?

Please reply.

Thank you!
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by:ken2421
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TechnoTroy,
As I am sensing another backup program may suit your needs better, may I suggest Cobian Backup. It is free to you. It is easy to use. It can backup in a variety of ways.

http://www.cobian.se/cobianbackup.htm

Now if you want a paid solution that can help you recover from a Hard Drive failure, I use acronis.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

You can try it for free. I love it.

You can fix your windows backups. We will need you to reboot your computer prior to starting the resolution. Then the forum the Justin mentions above is as good as anyplace to start.

Let me know what I can do to help.

Ken
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by:TechnoTroy
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Thanks for your help. Well, I have the answer that I have determined to be correct through long careful anaylzing and testing. This may be a revelation to many users out there, not connecting the two independent issues -- my issue above and the System Reserved partition. I thank justinyeung for his link.

BOTTOM LINE "it seems" -- cause and effect:

It appears if you have the System Reserved partition (created for some users under certain conditions at the time of Windows 7 installation), therefore you cannot use Windows 7's System Image feature (because of this). THIS IS DEFINATELY A MICROSOFT ISSUE AND "THEY" "NEED" TO CREATE A FIX FOR THIS ISSUE, whether an important or critical Windows Update or some "FixIt" on the Microsoft website to have the Windows System Image inocrporate the System Reserved partition and continue as normal with the System Image process!!!

If you read the Windows message carefully, there is a part of it that does relate to the issue at hand... ...that System Reserved partition. In my case, it was the 100 MB system partition that Windows setup during theinstallation that was under capacity. As it says, if you have a volume under 500 MB, the minimum is 50 MB of free space. In my case, my 100 MB volume only had about 31.7 MB free when I was trying to do the system image... ...and thus it wouldn't work. And at this point, from what I understand, this System Reserved partition is essential to my Windows 7 operating system.

The only way to successfully use Windows 7's System Image feature is to do a clean installation with the tricks to prevent that separate partition from generating, because YOU CANNOT  change the System Reserved partition IN ANY WAY or your system is TOAST (Unless your an excellent computer programmer and can manipulate the partition and incorporate the files (boot files) and other files INTO the system partition files.)!!!

Issue solved.  
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by:TechnoTroy
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The link from this member has the answer in it. I tested this issue myself and I fit the case too. I realized the only possible solution... ...sadly... ...a clean install and the tricks to avoid getting the System Reserved partition so I can use Windows 7's System Imaging software.  
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