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I have two microsoft 2008 servers.
one was bought with license installed.  We bought 100 user cals. and it appears to have come with the RDP LICENSES.  The reason I say this is because we use the remote desktop and never get a license error.
the second server, everytime I remote in it warns me that I don't have a license to use remote desk login.
Before I started buying these things, I was told that because they are on the same domain as main active directory and backup active directory I only needed one set of licenses, because we either connect to one or the other.

how do I see what license are installed on the main server, license server is not running.
and how do I install the license to the backup if I need them there.

read the microsoft stuff but like everything else at microsoft it is not clear what they want me to do.  have several 2008 server books and there is no mention of this subject.
so can someone enlighten me?

gary
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by:DMcCulla
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There are 2 different CALS for Server 2008. The generic User Cals, which are simply to join the client to the Server 2008 domain, and then theres the TS CAL, which allows users access to the Server 2008 Terminal License server running 2008.

Pretty much you need to designate a license server if you plan on using TS/RDP. This way, the license server will allow you access by granting you a license, which it seems you have plenty of, to use the TS/RDP session on that specific server.
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by:Darius Ghassem
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RDS\TS CALs are different then Server CALs that come with Windows 2008 Server. By default you are allowed to Remote Desktop connections to the Windows 2008 servers. If you to run RDS\TS you would need to have a RDS\TS licensing server that will hand out these RDS CALs.

We can not give you information on if you are licensed properly or not since we are not MS or licensed dealers of MS but usually you need to Server CALs for every device\user that will connect a Windows Server which means if you had 100 clients and 2 servers you would need to purchase 100 CALs for each server totaling 200 Server CALs
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by:cmrayer
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There are three main licence models:

OEM
Retail
MS agreement

With OEM the licences are for that server, with the others they are usually for the user/device.

For RDS you need an RDS licence server and it sounds like the first server is talking to that, you probably just need to make the second server aware of the license server (the event log on startup will tell you if it cannot find one) and unless you have OEM CALS for the one server you should be fine...

You will however need to make sure you have user/device CALs and RDS CALs for each user that needs to use RDS.  Microsoft do not enforce the limit in software but do legally....
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by:SPC_75
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Also, Per User CALS are much easier to manage than Per Device CALS.
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by:javagair
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the problem is that the license server is not running on any server.  So how are the 100 license be maintained?  If they are in the windows os from a setting on the install, how do I move them to the license server.

When I had a windows nt server there was always a tech number at microsoft that I could call, there doesn't seem to be any way to call microsoft anymore??????

gary
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Darius Ghassem earned 500 total points
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Starting in Windows 2008 Server there is no licensing module you just need to keep the paperwork stating you have these many CALs so if MS audits you can show the paperwork.

Server CALs are not tracked in the server itself.

Only Terminal Server CALs are tracked and you would need Terminal Server CALs. Also, you would need to install a Terminal Server licensing server but you don't have TS CALs it seems you only have Server CALs.
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by:javagair
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yes but, since I don't have any terminal license on the main Active Directory and don't get a warning; and I don't have any terminal license on the backup Active Directory and do get a warning that I  have only so many days left, why do I get a warning on one and not the other?
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by:Darius Ghassem
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Because you placed one is application mode most likely
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