Windows Backup and Restore

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I have users that are running local backups to USB drives.  The computers are Windows 7.  Windows Backup and Restore is not very flexible with backup sets.  There is no way (that I have found) to have Windows automatically free up space on the backup target.  The users need to manually clear space.  The problem is that Backup and Restore is protected by UAC.  The users can't open the program, much less get to the point where they can delete older backups.

Is there a way to enable users to get in to backup and restore without disabling UAC?  If not, is there a way to have Windows automatically free up space on the backup target?

I've tried some basic GPOs with no luck.
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If the task is scheduled, try changing the "Access Control" on the backup task to "Inherit" from "Do Not Inherit"
Windows backups are very basic according to MS. They wanted it to be that was for the users that are not tech savy. So the backup is set just to backup files to a specific area and very general. So I doubt there is a way to do that in Windows backup utility. I have some users that are backing up with Windows to a mapped drive on our server. And in research MS said there is ot specifics in the Windows backup. You might have to look at an outside MS backup utility

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I understand the limitations of MS backup, however I'm trying to find a way to work with them.  I've now applied a GPO to a test computer disabling UAC.  Before this GPO I was getting the UAC login box.  What permissions would I need to get around this, besides full Administrator?
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You could try setting permissions to the backup folder for the user as a start. A scheduled task may be only SYSTEM creds. Add the user specifically to the share and permissions.

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It seems the user require admin privileges are required to run the backup utility.  Really annoying.

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There is a BackUp Operators group that you may be able to use... Also; Power Users and Replicator groups. Give them a try before going full Admin. After adding a user to one of these local groups on the PC, a logoff is required for changes to take effect.

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I've tried replicator and backup operators.  I'll try power user.  Although that's still more overall rights than we like to give.

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The only other option is to pick through the options in the registry to give specific modify rights to those keys which involve the programs functionality. Also the file system and any services which may also affect the programs operability. Since Backup will want to verify security against the SYSTEM, you will undoubtedly run into the same problem. Have you thought of creating a local user or using the local administrator account in the scheduled task?

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The scheduled job runs ok.  Normal users simply can't open the Backup and Restore application to get to the functions within (they need to clear space from flash drives using the Manage Backup Space option).

Added user to Power Users.  Still nothing.  

This reminds me very much of the problem of letting users add fonts to a system.  That solution takes registry edits, folder rights adjusted and disabling UAC.

I have a feeling I'm stuck on this one.  Either give them admin or find another backup solution.

 
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And that's why there are third party publishers making money for their products... I feel your pain!
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This question has been classified as abandoned and is being closed as part of the Cleanup Program.  See my comment at the end of the question for more details.

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