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create a vpn connections when both sides have same network addressing

kcassone asked
Last Modified: 2012-05-10
I have to create a VPN between 2 sites but they both have the same internal ip scheme of 192.169.0XX
I believe I have to do NAT but I need step by step instuructions on how to do this.
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if they are on the same IP address range, then you will really struggle.

if you have a device at each location with an IP of how will the VPN tunnel know which device you want?

don't think you're going to be able to solve this one without changing the range of one site.


There must be way to do this!
a lot will depend on what you are using to establish the VPN link.

what hardware do you have?
JamesSenior Cloud Infrastructure Engineer

This is not the best to do it. Why not change the ip schema on either site? Technically this could prove very cumbersome. When PCs are sending and receiving packets your router performs what is known as bitwise, where is compare the ip host address and the subnet to decide if the packet is destined internally or an external network. I can't see how this can be achieved when both networks are using the same ip schema.

Your host will not ask your default gw if the address you are looking for is on the same subnet as yourself.


Maybe a peer to peer route? And static IP-s on both networks...


We need to keep information separate.
if you have to keep the information seperate, why the need for the VPN?

again - what hardare are you using to establish the VPN?
JamesSenior Cloud Infrastructure Engineer

This is not going to work for you. I have explained to you in my previous comment why the network id's have to be different.


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@kcassone :: i'm sorry you weren't able to find the answer you were seeking here.  unfortunately, the hardware you have is limiting your abilities to perform a VPN with identical subnets.  this was pointed out by myself (http:#a34088449) and jake (http:#a34088381).  although not a desireable solution, it is still a solution and points should be awared accrodingly.  two options exist:

all points going to jake for his solution here: http:#a34088381
split between myself (http:#a34088449) and jake (http:#a34088381)

i suppose there is a third option, which is to have the question deleted, but that would be up to a moderator.
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the author's hardware doesn't support what they are requesting.  my solution and jake's solution point this out.  i'm proposing a point split:

Jake's as the solution: http:#a34088381
Mine as assisted solution: http:#a34088449
I agree with digitap

I am restarting the auto-close procedure on behalf of the question asker. After Moderator review, the new disposition seems to be more appropriate to the outcome of this question.

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