will a Western Digital Genuine Caviar WD800BB 80 GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 Hard Drive support an IDE interface?
Hi Everyone;
Since my current motherboard does not support SATA connections, I am wondering if the following HDD will support an IDE interface: Western Digital Genuine Caviar WD800BB 80 GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 Hard Drive. I am under the impression this HDD does support IDE, but, I am not for certain.
Any shared input to this question will be grealy appreciated. Incidentally, here is a direct link to this HDD in anyone might be interested in checking it out. http://micropartsusa.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=58546. While I believe this 80GB HDD will be a good buy at $24.00, if someone should run across a different IDE HDD which is larger and a better deal, please feel free to post as well.
In the meantime, I will look forward to reviewing everyone's input to this question. I want to get everyone's opinion on this before making this purchase.
Thank you.
George
Since my current motherboard does not support SATA connections, I am wondering if the following HDD will support an IDE interface: Western Digital Genuine Caviar WD800BB 80 GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 Hard Drive. I am under the impression this HDD does support IDE, but, I am not for certain.
Any shared input to this question will be grealy appreciated. Incidentally, here is a direct link to this HDD in anyone might be interested in checking it out. http://micropartsusa.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=58546. While I believe this 80GB HDD will be a good buy at $24.00, if someone should run across a different IDE HDD which is larger and a better deal, please feel free to post as well.
In the meantime, I will look forward to reviewing everyone's input to this question. I want to get everyone's opinion on this before making this purchase.
Thank you.
George
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Just a followup on an interesting point brought up by Gary. You mentioned that 40 pin IDE cable gives a limited interface speed of 33Mhz. What speed does the 80 pin IDE cable give? Since it has twice as many pins, it seems reasonable it would yield an interface speed of 66Mhz, but, this is mere conjecture on my part. Would it be somewhat comparable to UDMA 2 Mode (40 pin IDE cable) and UDMA 5 or 6 Mode (80 pin IDE cable)?
Thank you.
George
Just a followup on an interesting point brought up by Gary. You mentioned that 40 pin IDE cable gives a limited interface speed of 33Mhz. What speed does the 80 pin IDE cable give? Since it has twice as many pins, it seems reasonable it would yield an interface speed of 66Mhz, but, this is mere conjecture on my part. Would it be somewhat comparable to UDMA 2 Mode (40 pin IDE cable) and UDMA 5 or 6 Mode (80 pin IDE cable)?
Thank you.
George
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Hi Everyone;
Using all of the information presented and the link provided by Gary, I went ahead and purchased a rounded 80 pin ultra IDE cable. I received it promptly and fast from Newegg.com. Gary certainly brought up some very interesting and insightful points regarding the important differences between 40 and 80 pin IDE cables. As always, everything mentioned by Gary was easy to follow and certainly made sense. If I may add, after carefully reading the information presented, it seems reasonable to think of each wire within the IDE cable like a "lane" for traffic to travel, in this case of course, data. Therefore, with more "lanes" like in the 80 pin IDE cable, more data is able to travel too and from the controller to the HDD, therefore, giving it much larger data throughput or bandwidth.
In closing, thanks again for the breakdown of everything. Oh, by the way, thank you also Gary for giving a brief history of where IDE controller speeds where in the 90's and comparing them to the current standards of today. When I reflect on that, I certainly do remember motherboard IDE controller speeds being limited to 33MHz. When I read this along with other trends or evolutions within the spectrum of technology, I am once again reminded how much things really do not stay the same. It is certainly a good thing that technology gives us faster this and better that kind of gadgets to play with and learn more about.
Well, I can keep going on and on about all of this, but, I will close by sincerely thanking everyone for the shared input, especially Gary. While I am always able to take something from each person who addresses my questions, Gary certainly has and continues be a big force in helping to shape my understanding of techological trends and troubleshooting. Thanks for always being there.
George
Using all of the information presented and the link provided by Gary, I went ahead and purchased a rounded 80 pin ultra IDE cable. I received it promptly and fast from Newegg.com. Gary certainly brought up some very interesting and insightful points regarding the important differences between 40 and 80 pin IDE cables. As always, everything mentioned by Gary was easy to follow and certainly made sense. If I may add, after carefully reading the information presented, it seems reasonable to think of each wire within the IDE cable like a "lane" for traffic to travel, in this case of course, data. Therefore, with more "lanes" like in the 80 pin IDE cable, more data is able to travel too and from the controller to the HDD, therefore, giving it much larger data throughput or bandwidth.
In closing, thanks again for the breakdown of everything. Oh, by the way, thank you also Gary for giving a brief history of where IDE controller speeds where in the 90's and comparing them to the current standards of today. When I reflect on that, I certainly do remember motherboard IDE controller speeds being limited to 33MHz. When I read this along with other trends or evolutions within the spectrum of technology, I am once again reminded how much things really do not stay the same. It is certainly a good thing that technology gives us faster this and better that kind of gadgets to play with and learn more about.
Well, I can keep going on and on about all of this, but, I will close by sincerely thanking everyone for the shared input, especially Gary. While I am always able to take something from each person who addresses my questions, Gary certainly has and continues be a big force in helping to shape my understanding of techological trends and troubleshooting. Thanks for always being there.
George
sorry, George but your idea of a larger bandwith is not correct, imo.
the 80- versus 40 wire have as much lanes; the 80- wire only has 40 additional GROUND wires, to diminuish the crosstalk, resulting in a higher posssible frequency
the 80- versus 40 wire have as much lanes; the 80- wire only has 40 additional GROUND wires, to diminuish the crosstalk, resulting in a higher posssible frequency
George => As nobus noted above, the reason for the 80-wire cables is to reduce the signalling noise ==> with an 80-wire cable every-other wire is a ground, so there's much less chance of electrical "noise" (crosstalk) between signalling lines. That's why (as I noted earlier) ribbon cables are actually slightly better in their electrical characteristics than the rounded cables (the relationship between the data lines and their associated grounds is more uniform) -- but the rounded cables work fine and allow for a much neater routing of the cables.
One other point: In your comment above you referenced the "... important differences between 40 and 80 pin IDE cables ..." ==> It's 80 wires vs. 40 wires ==> BOTH have 40 pins on the connectors.
One other point: In your comment above you referenced the "... important differences between 40 and 80 pin IDE cables ..." ==> It's 80 wires vs. 40 wires ==> BOTH have 40 pins on the connectors.
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Hi
Thank you for correcting my misunderstanding here. While my reasoning at the time did seem logical, it still was not the correct interpretation. Thanks again for correcting me here.
Have a great week everyone and thanks again for the help and correcting some misconceptions of mine.
George
Thank you for correcting my misunderstanding here. While my reasoning at the time did seem logical, it still was not the correct interpretation. Thanks again for correcting me here.
Have a great week everyone and thanks again for the help and correcting some misconceptions of mine.
George
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Thanks so much for the feedback and reassurance given to this concern. Just one more thing. Could someone provide a direct purchase link for the 80 wire IDE cable? I am interested in purchasing a few of them, like 4 or so just to keep around for future purposes in addition to this current HDD installation project.
Thanks again.
George