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Blackberry 5.0 upgrade question

Hi,
I came across the below info in the blackberry document:
You can use bulk mode to move all user accounts on a BlackBerry Enterprise Server. During the migration process, you must turn off the BlackBerry Enterprise Server instances in both the source BlackBerry Domain and the destination BlackBerry Domain. In the destination BlackBerry Domain, however, you must turn on the BlackBerry Administration Service.
How should we turn off the blackberry instances? should we do this from the console ?If so how? or if all other BB services on apart BAS on 5.0 must be stopped and all BB services must be stopped on 4.1?

In the below information:
In a Microsoft® Exchange or Novell® GroupWise® messaging environment, you must configure the destination BlackBerry Enterprise Server instances to use the same BlackBerry Enterprise Server instance names (ServerConfig.ServiceName) and SRP IDs that the source BlackBerry Enterprise Server instances use.
Can anyone please let me know how this can be done?
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Rob KnightConsultantCommented:
Hi,

I presume you want to use the BlackBerry Transporter service?

This essentially connects to the two SQL or MSDE databases and migrates the users from the BES 4 to the BES 5 environment.

Would it not be easier to do an in-situ upgrade from BES 4 to BES 5?

Regards,


Rob.
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daveTechSearchCommented:
I recently did a 4x to 5x upgrade.

Peform an in place upgrade?  Depends on your OS.  As we were on Win2k and it is no longer supported by M$ a migration was forced.  Makes sense to go fresh on 2k8.

I used the Transporter to do the account migrations.  Nothing had to be turned on/off on either BES server.  Transporter worked flawlessly.

It almost sounds like you are reading the documentation for a Knife Edge Cut-over.  This will not work for an upgrade to a newer version on a different box (DB Schema will not match, etc).

The simplest thing to do is get another SRP.  I know that you can order one (they call it a migration kit) from RIM if you have a support contract, not sure what happens if you don't have a contract.  We have two SRP's (one Prod, one Dev) so this was not an issue.

Can you post the link to the docs you are looking at?
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priyaexchAuthor Commented:
Thanks for your inputs Rob and Dave.
http://docs.blackberry.com/en/admin/deliverables/11734/BlackBerry_Enterprise_Server_Resource_Kit-Installation_and_Administration_Guide--826281-1029034711-001-5.0.1-US.pdf
is the documentation I am referring to.
Dave: You have mentioned that "This will not work for an upgrade to a newer version on a different box (DB Schema will not match, etc)."
can you please elaborate?

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priyaexchAuthor Commented:
I am still confused as to how this can be done or what they mean here:
you must configure the destination BlackBerry Enterprise Server instances to use the same BlackBerry Enterprise Server instance names (ServerConfig.ServiceName) .
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daveTechSearchCommented:

"you must configure the destination BlackBerry Enterprise Server instances to use the same BlackBerry Enterprise Server instance names (ServerConfig.ServiceName) ."

This is in reference to 'transporting' the BB accounts 'in bulk' (aka 'bulk mode').  Both the source and the destination BES must use the same SRP ID and Instance Names.  With this, they cannot both be running at the same time.

With the 'Live' mode, both servers would use different SRP ID's and can have different Instance Names (you specify the BES instance name when performing an install of the BES server software).  This is how I performed our migration a couple of months ago.
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priyaexchAuthor Commented:
Thanks for the explanation.
BES instance is the "besmgmt". name of the sql instance .correct me if I am worng.
And for bulk the srp and the name of the sql instance(besmgmt) must be same?
for live mode SRP and sql instance can be different?
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