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Can I connect or disconnect power to a SATA disk when the PC is running?
I have a standard PC with several harddisks. I would like to use one of them for backing up important data. Just copy the data to the disk is easy.
However, I want to be able to physically disconnect the drive from the rest of the system to get better data protectin. No matter what happens to the main system there should not even be a theoretical chance that the backup disk is altered or deleted.
My thinking is that I install an physical switch that connect/disconnects the backup disk from power. When I want to back up data I apply power - and when I'm done I switch power off.
I have two questions:
1. Can I have a SATA disk connected with the data cable but with power not connected?
2. If I only connect/disconnect the backup disk to power while the PC is turned off then I should be safe (if question 1 is OK). But how about connect or disconnet while power is on? That is, a kind of "hot-swap". Is that OK, or do I risk damage to the disk or the mother board?
An alternative solution is, of course, to use an USB disk as backup. But right now I would like to explore the SATA disk idea.
However, I want to be able to physically disconnect the drive from the rest of the system to get better data protectin. No matter what happens to the main system there should not even be a theoretical chance that the backup disk is altered or deleted.
My thinking is that I install an physical switch that connect/disconnects the backup disk from power. When I want to back up data I apply power - and when I'm done I switch power off.
I have two questions:
1. Can I have a SATA disk connected with the data cable but with power not connected?
2. If I only connect/disconnect the backup disk to power while the PC is turned off then I should be safe (if question 1 is OK). But how about connect or disconnet while power is on? That is, a kind of "hot-swap". Is that OK, or do I risk damage to the disk or the mother board?
An alternative solution is, of course, to use an USB disk as backup. But right now I would like to explore the SATA disk idea.
PS, to answer your question, yes you can leave just power or sata in and the system wont see it. You need both to run. But still, damage may happen.
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Ok, thanks.
The disk I have is an Western Digital VelociRaptor WDS WD3000GLFS.
I'm unsure about the controller but if I look in Device Manager under "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers" I see "Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF"
Is this combination compatible with hotswap? I can't change motherboard, but I'm ready to concider buying another disk.
The disk I have is an Western Digital VelociRaptor WDS WD3000GLFS.
I'm unsure about the controller but if I look in Device Manager under "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers" I see "Intel(R) 82801G (ICH7 Family Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 27DF"
Is this combination compatible with hotswap? I can't change motherboard, but I'm ready to concider buying another disk.
I believe the ICH10 southbridge was the first one to support hot swap, so your ICH7 would not support hot swap.
I do recommend an external hard disk or a removable bay like to one I linked to earlier. That way, the disk can be physically removed and stored separately from the PC or off site.
I do recommend an external hard disk or a removable bay like to one I linked to earlier. That way, the disk can be physically removed and stored separately from the PC or off site.
"Can" you remove power -- of course :-)
SHOULD you? NO!! Not unless your system has (a) a SATA-II or SATA-III controller AND you are using AHCI access mode. Hot swap is only supported with AHCI. If your system is configured to support this, the drive should be shown in the "Safely Remove" list --- and you should always "Safely Remove" it before physically disconnecting it (via either the power cable, the data cable, or both).
SHOULD you? NO!! Not unless your system has (a) a SATA-II or SATA-III controller AND you are using AHCI access mode. Hot swap is only supported with AHCI. If your system is configured to support this, the drive should be shown in the "Safely Remove" list --- and you should always "Safely Remove" it before physically disconnecting it (via either the power cable, the data cable, or both).
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Gary -- if it were a RAID controller, it would have an R in the chipset model (82801GR).
@weedogt -- you should re-open question and reassign points. garycase gave you some additional, useful information.
@weedogt -- you should re-open question and reassign points. garycase gave you some additional, useful information.
Missed the lack of the R in the chipset ... just noted the "... ICH7 Family ..." reference, which could include any of the various ICH7 units -- SOME of which include AHCI support.
No need to reassign points [I have enough :-) ]
No need to reassign points [I have enough :-) ]
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>> @weedogt -- you should re-open question and reassign points. garycase gave you some additional, useful information.
I'll be happy to. How do I do that?
I'll be happy to. How do I do that?
If garycase shows back up, he can handle. Otherwise, click on Request Attention and ask a moderator to re-open question.
Gary -- I'm just trying to be a nice guy. You deserve an accept or assist on this one.
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Ok, points to both willcomp and garycase.
Thank you guys! Now I have the answer(s) I need.
Thank you guys! Now I have the answer(s) I need.
Hope that helps.