How to set a Correct Backup ?

It all depends of the size methods (like tape back ups and rotation schemes).

if you use incremental backup for 30 day and normal back up every 30 days. in case of a disaster say on the 29th day you need files of the last normal backup and the last 28 backups and it is time consuming. I would suggest if the files sizes aren't huge do a weekly full backup. and then daily incremental.

You have to append the data. If you choose to replace it will be replaced and reased with a daily one every day.

Thanks for commen :-)
we want to keep 30x days archive , because it's Terminal Server with over 150x User , so it's important to keep files between 30-60x days
you are right , first i came up with Normal + Differential backup , cheff didn't accept it because of huge place reqirement on extern HDD
i know Restoring data will be pain , but they want it and i should do it

they want to trace on modified files , means if some files changed , they want to know which day it happened and recover it from that date

so they want to use backup as Tracing tools too ;-)

let me see if i get it it right or no ,....
i should set a Normal Backup on C:\Documents and Settings every 30x day
then set a Incremental backup everyday as "Append" mode
so after next Normal backup , Incremental backups will be overwriten on old one , right ?  or it keeps growing ?
and how i can Delete 1x day's backup from backup file ? in restore mode i can choose just t "Select" , or i can choose "Delete Catalog" if i choose entire Backup file !!!!
 

if i Delete the Catalog , still *.bkf file is huge , we should consider the saving Backup file's place too ;-)
 

Hi

Please see a question which I previously answered.

https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/26638728/Help-with-creating-daily-backups-in-Windows-Server-2003-Standard.html

What I would do if I were you. Create a folder called daily and backup daily incremental.

forfiles /p C:\backup /d -30 /c "cmd /c del @path
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup c:\Bravo /j "%date:/=-%-Daily-%COMPUTERNAME%" /f "C:\backup\%date:/=-%-Daily-%COMPUTERNAME%.bkf" /m incremental
 

the - 30 will delete files older than 30 days. I will save it as bat and schedule it to run every day.

I will create a second folder Monthly and I will have a second batch file.

forfiles /p C:\backup /d - 61 /c "cmd /c del @path
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup c:\Bravo /j "%date:/=-%-Daily-%COMPUTERNAME%" /f "C:\backup\%date:/=-%-Daily-%COMPUTERNAME%.bkf" /m normal


and schedule it to run every month.

The reason I have kept 61 is i do not want my old file deleted first and back up job incompleted.

TRY THIS BEFORE YOU IMPLEMENT.

aha , sound good :)
i want to try that on 1x of Terminal servers , and if it worked , will apply that to all other 6x servers too :-)
can i have little more help about this batch file thing ?
i mean can i have it step by step ?

currently TEST backup running exactly like this command on Domain Controller:

C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.GN-W2K3-DC\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data\TEST-Incremental-Docs.bks" /a /d "Set created 29-11-2010 at 09:23" /v:no /r:no /rs:no /hc:off /m incremental /j "TEST-Incremental-Docs" /l:s /f "X:\Backup\DC\TEST-Incremental-Docs.bkf"

this one saves backup on the Extern HDD attached on server
but another server saves on Remote Location , plz check this one too :


C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Documents and Settings\administrator\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data\Test-Docs.bks" /n "TEST-Docs.bkf created 08-11-2010 at 14:52" /d "Set created 08-11-2010 at 14:52" /v:no /r:no /rs:no /hc:off /m normal /j "Test-Docs" /l:s /f "\\Serv2-ts\BACKUP\serv1-ts\TEST-Docs.bkf"
i copy , pasted it from backup Utility -> Schedule Jobs -> Schedule Job Options -> Properties -> Task tab

you are Pro and i'm not , that's why i asking about how i can do that step by step ( never created a bat file befor !!!)
and when i did that after your guide , what happening to this bat file after i restart the server because of updates ?  should i Run it every time ?

can i just replace / edit that backup jobs there ? in configured Backup Wizzard thing ?
each server is located in different Office in different Cities , i shared each Extern HDD and saving Server's backup on other server , so if one office burn and server turn to dust , still i have backup on other location and can use it

i know that makes this Backup Plan harder  ;-)

Ok , Thanks , stillworking on it  :)
gimme couple days , i do some mistake and not working for me
maybe i changing something on commands and i shouldn't , will figure it out where i doing this fail :(

ok , what part i can change in commands ?
i changed it to :

forfiles /p C:\backup /d -30 /c "cmd /c del @path

C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntbackup.exe backup "@C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.GN-W2K3-DC\Local Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows NT\NTBackup\data\TEST-Incremental-Docs.bks" /j "%date:/=-%-Daily Incremental-%COMPUTERNAME%" /f /a /d "Set created 30-11-2010 at 09:23" /v:no /r:no /rs:no /hc:off /m incremental /j "TEST-Incremental-Docs" /l:s /f "X:\Backup\DC\TEST-Incremental-Docs.bkf"