Windows 2008 RDS Licencing with Foundation Server

Hello!

We are looking to setup a server for a client that will allow up to 3 users to remote desktop to it from remote locations. As far as licencing is concerned, we need to keep the costs down so I have been looking at Windows Server 2008 R2 Foundation.

I see that Terminal Services is now called RDS and each concurrent connection will need an RDS licence? I also read a bit about RDS connector but I dont quite understand.

I would just like the know what is need as a minimum to run a simple server that that will allow 3 concurrent connections via remote desktop each being able to run applications in their own separate sessions. The server doesnt need to be a domain controller, can I just authenicate against the server using local accounts?

As far as I understand so far, I would need...
1x Microsoft Windows 2008 R2 Foundation Edition (approx £150 if bundled with the server)
1x Microsoft Windows Server 2008 R2 Remote Desktop Services - 5 User CAL (approx £430)

Are there any RDS CALs included with foundation by default?

Many thanks in advance for your help.

Chris

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Lee W, MVPConnect With a Mentor Technology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Foundation Edition does not come with any RDS CALs.

Licensing is NOT BY CONCURRENT USER OR DEVICE.  Licensing is by NAMED user or device.

DISCLAIMER: Licensing advice offered here is a "best effort" and based on the understanding of the respondents. Licenses can change and we may not be aware of these changes or may misunderstand them. Further, licenses can differ by country and/or region and what we understand to be true in our region could be false in your region. "they told me on Experts-Exchange" will not be a valid defense in a software audit.  All licensing questions should be confirmed with the appropriate licensing authority (the maker of the software/issuer of the license).  
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firefoxchrisAuthor Commented:
Many thanks leew,

Does Foundation come with the required standard 5 CALs to be able to then have RDS CALs on top? Also, how do you go about assigning an RDS CAL to a specific user, can this be done with local users or do they have to be on a domain controller active directory?

Cheers in advance!
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Lee W, MVPConnect With a Mentor Technology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
Actually, Foundation is limited to be installed on network of 15 users or less - if your active directory has more than 15 user-created user accounts, you will be violating licensing and a pop-up box on Foundation should tell you this.  Doesn't matter if only 15 users (or less) use the machine - the network itself must be 15 or fewer.  

Foundation doesn't get additional CALs.  It's designed for small networks and includes the CALs for typical file sharing and authentication - it CAN be a terminal server and doesn't have to be a domain controller, but that 15 user limit still applies.

The user RDS cals would be assigned on paper to the users and the Terminal Services Licensing server would typically (if I'm not mistaken) assign them to first x users who log in.
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firefoxchrisAuthor Commented:
Thanks leew, thats very interesting. When you say "the network itself must be 15 or fewer", do you mean overall, for example this could be a network for one customer who is in a rack with other VLANs for other customers?
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Lee W, MVPConnect With a Mentor Technology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
I mean if your active directory has more than 15 user-created user accounts

Keep in mind who the product is targeted at - it's meant for SMALL businesses who don't want the expense of a small business server but would like a centralized domain for all users and workstations.  It's cheap to make it affordable for the small businesses.  And its (licensing) easy for small business as its basic services don't require CALs.  (RDS is not a basic service).
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firefoxchrisAuthor Commented:
Ok I think ive almost got it! - One final thing I jsut wanted to confirm, although no CALs are required for up to 15 users, I assume we would still need the RDS CALs, and in turn would we also need standard CALs for those if we did have 5 RDS CALs.

Many thanks for the clarification!
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Lee W, MVPConnect With a Mentor Technology and Business Process AdvisorCommented:
You would still need RDS CALs.  But the standard CALs are covered by the fact that you simply cannot add CALs (on paper or electronically) to the Foundation server.  

REmember:
DISCLAIMER: Licensing advice offered here is a "best effort" and based on the understanding of the respondents. Licenses can change and we may not be aware of these changes or may misunderstand them. Further, licenses can differ by country and/or region and what we understand to be true in our region could be false in your region. "they told me on Experts-Exchange" will not be a valid defense in a software audit.  All licensing questions should be confirmed with the appropriate licensing authority (the maker of the software/issuer of the license).  
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firefoxchrisAuthor Commented:
Got it! Thanks for your advice and totally understand your disclaimer :) Sending points..
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