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Moving Terminal services licening from 2003 to 2008 R2

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Currently have a production Presentation Server 4 environment with a 2003 server acting as the Terminal services Licensing server in per user mode.  I am rolling out a 2008 R2 Xenapp6 farm that will replace the PS4 farm and will have a 2008 R2 licensing server.  

My problem is I need to get the licensing working on the new Xenapp6 farm while maintaining the PS4 production farm until we migrate over.  I posted a previous question about this and was told to activate a new 2008 R2 licensing server and call the clearing house to get 2008  CALS issued (I have software assurance).  I was told to leave the existing 2003 licensing server up and running until the migration is complete then I can just shut down the server.

When I call the clearing house they require me to de-activate the current 2003 TS licensing server, remove the licenses and then they will upgrade the 2003 CALS to 2008.  This will obviously break my current production environment.  I have about 70 days left on the evaluation licenses.  Am I going to be forced to migrate in this time frame?  Seems a little unreasonable.  For Citrix, I have one license server that is passing out licenses for both the Xenapp6 farm and the PS4 farm.  Can I upgrade the CALs, move them to the 2008 server and have it service my production 2003 environment as well and the 2008 environment?  

One other note.  For a while I had no 2003 terminal Services licensing server in my 2003 PS4 environment.  I believe the machine crashed and I had to re-install it from scratch and did not realize it was the 2003 TS licensing server.  I did not notice because the PS4 environment never missed a beat.  Apparently if the servers are in per user mode they only check for the Existence of a TS licensing server when they are first set up.  Then they never check again unless you make a change.  Could I move everything to 2008 and leave these per user server running without a license server until I am migrated over?  I guess I could test this by stopping the 2003 licensing server and see what happens.

Thanks.
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To be licensed per MS you would need to remove the CALs from licensing the Windows 2003 TS to be able to upgrade to Windows 2008 server TS CALs this is a MS requirment.
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Can I move a portion over?  Maybe 20 at a time?  How do they expect you to smoothly migrate things over when you have to pull the rug out from under your production environment?  Is 90 days really enough time to test, resolve, pilot and deploy a large TS environment?  Someone else has surely had this issue.    
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You should be able to move a little at a time this should be an option I would speak to MS Clearing house about that. I have deployed TS systems but we have purchased new CALs
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They allowed me to move 15 licenses for the time being.  They did not however require that I remove them from the old machine.  Seems like I receive a different answer every time I call the clearing house.
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There simply does not seem to be a documented method for moving these TS licenses even after talking to the clearing house.  I receive a different answer every time I call them.
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