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# another question about multi state Powerball lottery.

When I buy a $1 ticket and the cashier presses a button on the ticket machine and it spits out my ticket, tell me the ways the machine is "selecting my numbers".

Some software?

A rotating wheel with 59 numbers and it stops at random 5 times?

Just how do these machines select numbers?

Thanks.

Some software?

A rotating wheel with 59 numbers and it stops at random 5 times?

Just how do these machines select numbers?

Thanks.

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When they introduced the 'Pot-luck' random row generator in the uk it reduced the incidence of roll-over weeks to almost zero. The rng must give a very even selection of tickets, enough to fill most of the gaps left by people choosing their own lines.

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I meant to post this earlier, someone sent me.

Sample Lotto Algorythm

Sample Lotto Algorythm

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From tonight's paper. The machine picked the numbers.

WILTON -- Dan Yakush hopes the winner of the $48.8 million Powerball jackpot is a regular customer -- someone who comes in all the time for gas, a carton of milk, a little chitchat. Someone who has been spending a dollar on a lottery ticket and dreaming for a long time.

For now, no one knows who bought the winning ticket, only that it was purchased at the Stewart's store Yakush manages at the corner of Route 50 and Jones Road.

The ticket was bought sometime in the last seven to 14 days, although it's more likely it was purchased within days of the Christmas Day drawing. Someone paid $1 for the computer to generate six numbers printed on a slip of paper and then beat the mind-blowing odds of 1 in 195 million when the white balls drawn Saturday were 1, 17, 38, 50, 52 and Powerball number 24 .

At the store, Yakush has signs up to let people know the winning ticket was sold there. He found out by checking the lottery website Sunday. Yakush has been working for Stewart's for 20 years; the previous biggest lottery payout he's seen was $2,500.

Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Winner-come-forward-922709.php#ixzz19RPjCgTc

WILTON -- Dan Yakush hopes the winner of the $48.8 million Powerball jackpot is a regular customer -- someone who comes in all the time for gas, a carton of milk, a little chitchat. Someone who has been spending a dollar on a lottery ticket and dreaming for a long time.

For now, no one knows who bought the winning ticket, only that it was purchased at the Stewart's store Yakush manages at the corner of Route 50 and Jones Road.

The ticket was bought sometime in the last seven to 14 days, although it's more likely it was purchased within days of the Christmas Day drawing. Someone paid $1 for the computer to generate six numbers printed on a slip of paper and then beat the mind-blowing odds of 1 in 195 million when the white balls drawn Saturday were 1, 17, 38, 50, 52 and Powerball number 24 .

At the store, Yakush has signs up to let people know the winning ticket was sold there. He found out by checking the lottery website Sunday. Yakush has been working for Stewart's for 20 years; the previous biggest lottery payout he's seen was $2,500.

Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Winner-come-forward-922709.php#ixzz19RPjCgTc

A very nice Christmas for someone :7)

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Odds of winning are better when the prize is that small.

Such as 1 in 195 million. I guess 195M tickets had been sold since the first draw date after the last winner.

More people will buy more tickets, once it gets over 100M or 200M, and the odds of winning will be much worse than 1 in 195M.

So, a $48M winner last week, and the prize goes back to the starting point, and will rise as Wed. and Sat. draws go by, with no winner.

Wait until it gets to $200M or more. Everybody and his brother will be buying tickets. Some Powerball players don't even buy tickets until it gets big.

From a previous thread I have decided on how to pick my "forever" 5 numbers.

I thought about numbers on pieces of paper or draw from 59 marbles. But, the paper might not get stirred up enough, etc.

I want "real" random.

I'm going to a local bingo game and hang around for the first game before leaving. The balls are numbered 1-75. The first 5 numbers drawn under 60 will be the 5 numbers I play every time I buy a ticket. The next bingo ball under 40 will be my Powerball number.

So, whatever my new, and forever numbers are, they will pay off:

between "now and later"

Such as 1 in 195 million. I guess 195M tickets had been sold since the first draw date after the last winner.

More people will buy more tickets, once it gets over 100M or 200M, and the odds of winning will be much worse than 1 in 195M.

So, a $48M winner last week, and the prize goes back to the starting point, and will rise as Wed. and Sat. draws go by, with no winner.

Wait until it gets to $200M or more. Everybody and his brother will be buying tickets. Some Powerball players don't even buy tickets until it gets big.

From a previous thread I have decided on how to pick my "forever" 5 numbers.

I thought about numbers on pieces of paper or draw from 59 marbles. But, the paper might not get stirred up enough, etc.

I want "real" random.

I'm going to a local bingo game and hang around for the first game before leaving. The balls are numbered 1-75. The first 5 numbers drawn under 60 will be the 5 numbers I play every time I buy a ticket. The next bingo ball under 40 will be my Powerball number.

So, whatever my new, and forever numbers are, they will pay off:

between "now and later"

ASKER

thanks

I know this is a closed question, but nickq5, your last section you posted is wrong.

In fact, it's very wrong.

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You said:

Odds of winning are better when the prize is that small.

Such as 1 in 195 million. I guess 195M tickets had been sold since the first draw date after the last winner.

More people will buy more tickets, once it gets over 100M or 200M, and the odds of winning will be much worse than 1 in 195M.

************************************* End of the part i'm going to comment on.

The odds of winning the lottery are not better or worse when the number of tickets sold changes.

The odds of winning the Mega Millions is *ALWAYS* 1 in 175 million.

By way of a naive example:

If they had a lottery, and you bought the only ticket... you would not be guaranteed to win.

The opposite is true, too. If you sold 175 Million tickets, it is NOT guaranteed that one of those sold tickets is a winner. The reason for this is that i is *possible* that more than one person has the exact same numbers as another person... and no one has the numbers that were actually chosen.

The math behind this really is simple.

When choosing winning numbers for the MEGAMILLIONS game, there is a pool of balls, from 1 to 56, and then the last ball (the power ball) is from a different pool of balls, numbered from 1 to 46.

The number of different ways that these balls can be combined is ALWAYS 175 million different ways.

-john

In fact, it's very wrong.

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You said:

Odds of winning are better when the prize is that small.

Such as 1 in 195 million. I guess 195M tickets had been sold since the first draw date after the last winner.

More people will buy more tickets, once it gets over 100M or 200M, and the odds of winning will be much worse than 1 in 195M.

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The odds of winning the lottery are not better or worse when the number of tickets sold changes.

The odds of winning the Mega Millions is *ALWAYS* 1 in 175 million.

By way of a naive example:

If they had a lottery, and you bought the only ticket... you would not be guaranteed to win.

The opposite is true, too. If you sold 175 Million tickets, it is NOT guaranteed that one of those sold tickets is a winner. The reason for this is that i is *possible* that more than one person has the exact same numbers as another person... and no one has the numbers that were actually chosen.

The math behind this really is simple.

When choosing winning numbers for the MEGAMILLIONS game, there is a pool of balls, from 1 to 56, and then the last ball (the power ball) is from a different pool of balls, numbered from 1 to 46.

The number of different ways that these balls can be combined is ALWAYS 175 million different ways.

-john

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I got the 195 million from the article above:

"The ticket was bought sometime in the last seven to 14 days, although it's more likely it was purchased within days of the Christmas Day drawing. Someone paid $1 for the computer to generate six numbers printed on a slip of paper and then beat the mind-blowing odds of 1 in 195 million when the white balls drawn Saturday were 1, 17, 38, 50, 52 and Powerball number 24."

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......I chickened out on the powerball, and using my 5 numbers for the state's pick 5 where the odds of 5 out of 5, is only 1 in 550,000.

"The ticket was bought sometime in the last seven to 14 days, although it's more likely it was purchased within days of the Christmas Day drawing. Someone paid $1 for the computer to generate six numbers printed on a slip of paper and then beat the mind-blowing odds of 1 in 195 million when the white balls drawn Saturday were 1, 17, 38, 50, 52 and Powerball number 24."

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......I chickened out on the powerball, and using my 5 numbers for the state's pick 5 where the odds of 5 out of 5, is only 1 in 550,000.

nickq5,

My problem wasn't with the 195 million number you used.

It was really these lines...

and

The point of emphasis is that the odds of winning

it is always exactly 1 in 175 million.

My problem wasn't with the 195 million number you used.

It was really these lines...

*Odds of winning are better when the prize is that small.*and

*More people will buy more tickets, once it gets over 100M or 200M, and the odds of winning will be much worse than 1 in 195M*The point of emphasis is that the odds of winning

**do not change**based on the number of tickets sold.it is always exactly 1 in 175 million.

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http://www.sceducationlottery.com/games2/howtoplay_powerball.asp#powerballodds

ok you can contact them about their odds being 1 in 195,249,054.

I decided to use my 5 numbers for the State's cash 5.

It pays more if you get 3 of 5 numbers.

It pays more if you get 4 of 5 numbers.

It pays 100,000 for 5 of 5, and the powerball pays 200,000

And the odds on 5 of 5 are down, near 1 in 65,000, and not 175+ million.

ok you can contact them about their odds being 1 in 195,249,054.

I decided to use my 5 numbers for the State's cash 5.

It pays more if you get 3 of 5 numbers.

It pays more if you get 4 of 5 numbers.

It pays 100,000 for 5 of 5, and the powerball pays 200,000

And the odds on 5 of 5 are down, near 1 in 65,000, and not 175+ million.

ASKER

It's a computer driven RNG (random number generator).