Should I get Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit, instead of 32 bit?
Is it worth getting Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit
instead of Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit?
instead of Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit?
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How much memory will you have in the target system? If it's >3GB then 64-bit will definitely be useful. OTOH I can't think of any reason to not get x64 even if you don't have >3GB. It's very well supported now. Most new PCs, including inexpensive ones, are coming with x64 installed now.
Regardless of architecture, I would personally get Professional. And if RAM is not a factor as suggested above, double check your printers to make sure they have 64bit driver support....
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It all depends on what your needs are. i.e. depending on your use and whether you would need additional memory down the line etc.
If you really must have flash in 64 bit, you can have the beta version from http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html.
You have to make sure that the applications you have and want to run on the system work under windows 7 (compatibility mode option) can go a long way in letting you work with older apps.
If you really must have flash in 64 bit, you can have the beta version from http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html.
You have to make sure that the applications you have and want to run on the system work under windows 7 (compatibility mode option) can go a long way in letting you work with older apps.
A 64-bit preview release of Flash Player is available for download from Adobe.
compatibility mode is OK. I've tried running some old somewhat common apps and they WILL NOT run - things like games that run fine on XP simply won't run on 7 and some apps, including Adobe PageMaker won't run either (XP Mode it works, but again, that's not a great solution). Again, TEST your apps first.
(Wow... Adobe finally came up with a Beta!!?!?! amazing... sorry, but they infuriate me for taking so long... it's still beta... BETA. 6 years after the first x64 version of windows debuted. Amazing speed).
(Wow... Adobe finally came up with a Beta!!?!?! amazing... sorry, but they infuriate me for taking so long... it's still beta... BETA. 6 years after the first x64 version of windows debuted. Amazing speed).
It only took most software/hardware vendors about the same four or five years to include 64bit support and only in new products.
It is rather hard to complain about a free product.
It is rather hard to complain about a free product.
Well to be fair, Adobe isn't exactly the only one that's been slow to offer x64 support. Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera. Just sayin'.
> It only took most software/hardware vendors about the same four or
> five years to include 64bit support and only in new products.
> It is rather hard to complain about a free product.
I disagree. Many products from major and minor producers have 64 bit versions. That doesn't mean ALL, but MANY.
> Well to be fair, Adobe isn't exactly the only one that's been slow to offer
> x64 support. Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera. Just sayin'.
Google has the resources... Mozilla? Opera? Do they have Adobe's resources?
My point is flash is a MAJOR product and Adobe is a MAJOR company and Windows is a MAJOR product that has been clearly going in the x64 direction since vista was released. To me, that's unacceptable.
If you want to continue the debate, let's start a new question and stop hijacking this one.
> five years to include 64bit support and only in new products.
> It is rather hard to complain about a free product.
I disagree. Many products from major and minor producers have 64 bit versions. That doesn't mean ALL, but MANY.
> Well to be fair, Adobe isn't exactly the only one that's been slow to offer
> x64 support. Google Chrome, Firefox, Opera. Just sayin'.
Google has the resources... Mozilla? Opera? Do they have Adobe's resources?
My point is flash is a MAJOR product and Adobe is a MAJOR company and Windows is a MAJOR product that has been clearly going in the x64 direction since vista was released. To me, that's unacceptable.
If you want to continue the debate, let's start a new question and stop hijacking this one.
I do think mentioning it in the beginning was on topic because it illustrates that you can THINK that because a company is big and a product is popular it'll have an x64 version - the moral is be careful - that's not true.
You wanted to bash Adobe. A couple people spoke up. Not sure why that causes you distress.
I've had ~70 very demanding users on Windows 7 Prof. x64 now for nearly a year and we've had almost no issues. I'm running some ancient 32-bit apps on x64 at home and they work ok. I'm not claiming everything you might try is guaranteed to work (QuickBooks 2006 comes to mind - It won't run on Windows 7 period, x86 or x64) but by and large problems seem to be few. There are exceptions though.
@MikeMCSD, If I've earned any points that might be awarded in this discussion (not saying I have), please reallocate my share to leew. :)
I've had ~70 very demanding users on Windows 7 Prof. x64 now for nearly a year and we've had almost no issues. I'm running some ancient 32-bit apps on x64 at home and they work ok. I'm not claiming everything you might try is guaranteed to work (QuickBooks 2006 comes to mind - It won't run on Windows 7 period, x86 or x64) but by and large problems seem to be few. There are exceptions though.
@MikeMCSD, If I've earned any points that might be awarded in this discussion (not saying I have), please reallocate my share to leew. :)
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thanks all . . the new compute will have 4GB ram.
My main issue would be the older programs. The main ones I need are :
Visual Studio 2005
SQL Server 2005
Some others are :
Adobe Photoshop CS
Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 8.0
Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 10.0
Sound Forge 9.0
Nero 7
I have an older Microsoft Inteli-Mouse that I program the buttons for
and really need. Will the software work on 64 bit?
I have a HP P1006 printer. It says it works on
"Windows Vista (32-bit and 64-bit)" but I'm getting Window 7 ?
My main issue would be the older programs. The main ones I need are :
Visual Studio 2005
SQL Server 2005
Some others are :
Adobe Photoshop CS
Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 8.0
Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 10.0
Sound Forge 9.0
Nero 7
I have an older Microsoft Inteli-Mouse that I program the buttons for
and really need. Will the software work on 64 bit?
I have a HP P1006 printer. It says it works on
"Windows Vista (32-bit and 64-bit)" but I'm getting Window 7 ?
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Nero 7 will not work on ANY version of Win7.
You'll need to upgrade to at least Nero 9 I believe. No idea about the others - I would check the manufacturer's web site to be certain and google the product version.
The printer can probably work, but HP has been horrible with printer support, especially if you had need of sharing printers and I've heard other recent horror stories (who really thinks a driver that takes an hour to install is a good idea?
You'll need to upgrade to at least Nero 9 I believe. No idea about the others - I would check the manufacturer's web site to be certain and google the product version.
The printer can probably work, but HP has been horrible with printer support, especially if you had need of sharing printers and I've heard other recent horror stories (who really thinks a driver that takes an hour to install is a good idea?
IT-Monkey-Dave,
I'm sorry - I didn't realize you were an Adobe Fan and object to my opinion that a company like Adobe should support emerging technologies... quicker than 6 years after they emerge.
I'm sorry - I didn't realize you were an Adobe Fan and object to my opinion that a company like Adobe should support emerging technologies... quicker than 6 years after they emerge.
Now there are major and minor software producers that have x64 version.
Windows XP x64 came out April 25, 2005
X64 capable hardware was released at least a year earlier.
Only when the user base is present, only then software vendors release versions (paid)
Free ones take longer.
When did MS as the dominant PC OS release the first office suite for X64 systems?
2007 was not 64bit.
Windows XP x64 came out April 25, 2005
X64 capable hardware was released at least a year earlier.
Only when the user base is present, only then software vendors release versions (paid)
Free ones take longer.
When did MS as the dominant PC OS release the first office suite for X64 systems?
2007 was not 64bit.
LOL, I'm neither an Adobe fan nor do I object to anyone's opinion. There are many other worthy examples to call out on x64 delays besides Adobe and that's all anyone was trying to point out. I wonder if there's some technical hurdle to making Flash x64 work reliably or if it's just Adobe being slow. But anyway they're not alone.
Re VS2005 + Windows 7:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa948853
Re VS2005 + Windows 7:
To use Visual Studio 2005 on Windows 7 you will need to install both Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 and the Visual Studio 2005 Service Pack 1 Update for Windows Vista.I didn't have it spelled out quite right.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa948853
Here is a tool to help you decide about your applicatoins and compatibility with Windows 7
Windows 7 Application Compatibility List
The Windows 7 Application Compatibility List for IT Professionals is a Microsoft Office Excel-based spreadsheet listing software applications and respective 32-bit and 64-bit Windows 7 compatibility information. Compatibility information has been verified by either the software publisher or by the Windows 7 Logo Program testing requirements.
Windows 7 Application Compatibility List
The Windows 7 Application Compatibility List for IT Professionals is a Microsoft Office Excel-based spreadsheet listing software applications and respective 32-bit and 64-bit Windows 7 compatibility information. Compatibility information has been verified by either the software publisher or by the Windows 7 Logo Program testing requirements.
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