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VMware VSPhere 4.1 – HP DL 360 G5


Im planning to install VSPHERE server on HP-360 with 8 GB ram, please tell me what is the prerequisite  & steps .

Initially im trying to install trial version  if every thing will go well then we are planning to buy licenses  i have 15 servers including oracle 10g + application server Clustered + domain controller .

Can I host 14 servers on DL 380 G5 Machine with 8 GB ram  i have san aswell ???


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It all depends on the RAM requirements of your current servers.

But even without knowing the details, I would think that 8GB is not very much for hosting 15 servers (unless these are really really small servers). It's likely that this would result in severe performance degradation.
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so what is your recommendation for 14 servers  those are not small servers as i told you
oracle 10g
weblogic
document CMS
Indexing
devlepment
streaming
Hi,

I agree with robocat, Running 15 VM's on one box would not be workable. Even if the G5 had dual processors it would still very extremly slow.

What Spec was you thinking for the Server VM's?

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its ok No problem i can go for 3 Machines  with 8 RAM DL-360 G5 dual core single processor it'll be ok ?

I would setup the new server with atleast 32 GB of RAM taking into account further VM proliferation into consideration.
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32Gb for all machines ?? or each machine ???
32 GB for the ESX/ESXi host.

What edition are you planning to use ? Free Edition or one of the paid editions (Standard / Advanced / Enterprise / Enterprise Plus)
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Other respondents have focused on RAM requirements and that is good - memory and/or disk performance is where you will typically hit a bottleneck in a virtualized environment. I noticed that you indicated you had dual single core processors (2 cores total) and would also encourage you to add additional cores to your setup.

If what you are doing is evaluating the product on a server that you already have laying around then go for it with the 8GB and the 2 single core processors. But add your virtual servers gradually and observe the effect on the box. In the client there is a performance tab where you can see how each workload affects the utilization of the box. Start with say, development; then maybe add document CMS, streaming, oracle, etc. letting each one run for a while. I expect you will indeed hit the RAM bottleneck first with only 8GB, but you should be able to get a feel for how virtualizationa and VMware will work for you.

Good Luck

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thank you to all
well i'm totally new in virtualization world  can you guys suggest  me where to start ? how can i plan how many servers should be on one box ? i mean best practice
i  have available hardware  8 DL 360 single processor dual core's  & 6 DL 380 dual processors & dual core with 8GB ram i can upgrade these machine but it will hard to get new machines please suggest me what can i do and where can i start  


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you can check the bare minimum RAM requirement for the application you are installing and accordingly you can decrease or increase the RAM requirements of the VM.

the physical RAM will be the constrain for active and running vm's. allocate RAM accordingly while VM creation.
My suggestion would be install an evaluation of VMware Guided Consolidation tool, which is bundled with VMware vSphere v4.1.

This tool can analyze upto 100 Windows physical servers and can report the best candidates for virtualization (based on a star rating).

A domain administrator account is required for running this tool if its going to be an Active Directory environment or a local admin account is necessary..
What generation is your DL-360's? You indicated your DL-380 is a G5, note that the D-360 must be G5, G6, or G7 in order to be supported with VMware 4.x. You should check out http://www.vmware.com/go/hcl to ensure the equipment you have is compatible.

In terms of how many vms can you host - that is entirely dependent on the workload characteristics of the vms. For example - if your Oracle 10g is fully utilizing 6GB of RAM today, you might be able to combine that with another vm that only requires 1GB RAM. However if the Oracle only needs 2GB you might be able to combine that with 4 to 5 other vms that only require 1-2 GB of RAM.

With what info you have provided it appears that 8GB of RAM per host will be your limiting factor.

From a financial perspective you should also look at licensing costs and factor that into the equation. Depending on the features you need (HA, DRS, etc.) and considering VMware licensing runs based on number of processors (not cores) on the higher level packages, and the "Essentials" packages limit you to 3 ESX/ESXi hosts (max two processor, 6-cores per processor) per package it may pay in the long run to get a couple of newer stronger machines with sufficient RAM to run your enterprise.

Good Luck
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ok guys can you tell me where to start ? i mean do i need HP SMART START CD?? or just i'll insert ESX 4 server CD and install ?? can you please give me steps ????
There are customized versions of ESX and ESXi for HP specific hardware.

I suggest that you start with HP customized version of ESXi v4.1.

Download link - https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/p/activate.php?p=free-esxi&lp=1

You need to register with an email ID for starting the downloads.

A free ESXi edition's license key can be used on 999 hosts.
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thanks arunraju

so just i need to insert CD and install??  coz, im going to install VM on this same server windows 2003 what i'll do for drivers ???
ESXi cannot be installed as a dual boot operating system with any of Windows operating systems.

You can install ESXi as a baremetal installation on the HP server and then install the Windows OS as a Virtual Machine.
Windows OS when installed as a Guest OS obtains its drivers when VMware Tools is installed within the Virtual Machine.
vmware supplies all the necessary drivers for windows, linux, solaris x86. So there would be not real requirement for external drivers. the esi would handle the driver issue.
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thanks guys for your help  i started installation luckily i succeeded but im facing problem in network im not able to ping or connect on that IP what i gave, i have 4 network ports 3 was in use when i was installing it asked me on which port i want to assign ip i assigned on one of them after that i realized maybe i assigned on wrong port so i removed all cable accept that one which i wanted to give ip and submask and i tried on all ports it did't work  :( please tell me what should i do shell i reinstall ?? or is there any other way to troubleshot    
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hi guys,

can you tell me how can i use my HOST 2nd partition space ?? i mean when i was installing my ESX host it asked me which partition i want to use i chosen C: which had almost 130GB now i want to use my other partition it is almost 250GB free can i do that now ???
I believe you have installed VMware Server.

It generally uses the partition with the highest disk size in case you have multiple partitions on the hard disk.

Else, it uses C:\ as the datastore for storing VMs.
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is there any way i can use D:??? i mean other partition ???
You can edit the datastore setting on the home page of VMware server URL.
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when im going configuration - storage -- it only showing "storage1"  ...
how can i edit .

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Thanks Guys im sure im going to need more help from you guys .... i'll open new question :-)