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How to update webbot include files

Posted on 2011-02-11
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I have taken over support of a website developed with FrontPage. I use DreamWeaver. I need to make changes to an include file that is inserted into many web pages via webbot "Include". I made the changes to the include file. How do I get the new include file to be inserted in the pages?
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by:Paul MacDonald
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If it's the same file, won't it already be included?
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by:softechnics
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I would have expected that, but no. When I look at the source code of any page, I see the code of the previous include file is already there, not a link to the include file like I would expect with SHTML, etc.
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To be clear:  Are you creating a whole new include or are you editing the existing one?

If you're working in Dreamweaver, make sure you're editing the live files.  I believe Dreamweaver will create a "staged" set of pages that need to be published.  You can try this: Make a copy of the extant include file, then use a text editor (notepad or some such) and edit the live include directly.  
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by:softechnics
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I am trying to make changes to the current include file. I do not own/use FrontPage. The website was developed by a 3rd party we contracted with that used FrontPage.

I see the included code is embeded within two 'webot' tags. The ending tag has a checksum parameter. Do I have to acquire and use FrontPage to do this task for me? If not, how would I generate a new checksum? Is it required? Does it have to be valid?
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I'd wager the webbot tag is there because Frontpage didn't understand the <include> syntax, unless there is a Frontpage component between the opening and closing tags.  It (the webbot tag) is probably not necessary at all for the page to work properly, but it shouldn't be interferring with anything either.

Is the include code syntactically correct (is it pointing to the proper file name, etc)?  If you intentionally "break" the include tag (by mistyping the name of the included file), is that change reflected when you view the page?
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by:softechnics
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From what I've read, FrontPage incldues the include file at edit time, so the source, when uploaded to the server, already has the include file embedded within it. Without using FrontPage, how do I "re-embed" the changed code on the server?
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Frontpage may bring the include file in the the edit view - so you can preview what the final page will look like - but it doesn't embed the included code in the page as it's published to the web server.  

Can you not open a page that contains the include tag, in a text editor, directly from the web server?  If you can, you should see the page has the include tag in it.  You don't need to change the page of course, you need to change the include file.  That should be as simple as editing it.  I understand that's what you're trying to do, but I question whether Dreamweaver is editing the include file on the web server or a copy of it that's cached on your computer somewhere.  If you bypass Dreamweaver, go to the web server, open the include file in a simple text editor, make your changes and save the include file, I think you'll see the update being served up properly.
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by:softechnics
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I'll give you the points for your effort. It never did work, but it's becoming such a resource drain I just copied the code into all the pages. The site is doomed for obsolence anyways, so I'm not wasting any more time on it.

Thanks.
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Thanks, but I'm sorry we couldn't get it right for you.  
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