DHCP Problems after ISA Removal
Hey Everyone -
Took down ISA and have now connected the server to the internal router and using an internal IP of 172.16.32.xx. However, I need to setup the server to play DHCP with a scope of 192.168.1.101-201.
How would I go about doing that?
Took down ISA and have now connected the server to the internal router and using an internal IP of 172.16.32.xx. However, I need to setup the server to play DHCP with a scope of 192.168.1.101-201.
How would I go about doing that?
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Keith Alabaster
I've got to ask - why?
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You know what, the guy I'm working with came to finish with the uninstall of ISA server from yesterday, and called and asked. He asked me this exact same question, which didnt make sense since the server would have to have a similar address to the scope, but I figured I'd ask anyways. I'm now with him and hopefully finishing this up!
As of now, we've switched the LAN IP of the router to 192.168.1.1 and given the server an address of 192.168.1.64. Of course, the server is online and working. I ran the connection wizard one more time and restarted. Everything is working on the server. I created the DHCP scope 192.168.1.101-198.
What's left? As of right now none of the clients can reach the web/network. I did check over the switches to make sure they are each connected to the router in some way and they are.
As of now, we've switched the LAN IP of the router to 192.168.1.1 and given the server an address of 192.168.1.64. Of course, the server is online and working. I ran the connection wizard one more time and restarted. Everything is working on the server. I created the DHCP scope 192.168.1.101-198.
What's left? As of right now none of the clients can reach the web/network. I did check over the switches to make sure they are each connected to the router in some way and they are.
Do clients obtain ip information from DHCP ?
Can you ping ip address on the internet, ( ping 8.8.8.8) google's dns server.
tracert 8.8.8.8 ( how many successful hobs ?), can you reach routers behind your router ?
Can you ping ip address on the internet, ( ping 8.8.8.8) google's dns server.
tracert 8.8.8.8 ( how many successful hobs ?), can you reach routers behind your router ?
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This is mad/bad. You have removed the best software firewall/reverse proxy server in the world - obviously that is your call as it is your system. However, you have also removed the system that provides some 60% of the functionality of the SBS system and 100% of the external to internal services such as OWA/OMA/Activesync etc until you now manually install the necessary services and apply the appropriate configuration.
The fact you are talking about 192.168.x.z on one hand and 172.16.x.y on the other suggests you still have two nics operating on the SBS? If so, which nic have you bound the dhcp to?
The fact you are talking about 192.168.x.z on one hand and 172.16.x.y on the other suggests you still have two nics operating on the SBS? If so, which nic have you bound the dhcp to?
Good call keith:
Tell me if you think I am far off on this adventure. This thread implies that DHCP was once on the router, not the microsoft server. This can cause problems with DNS as the router will, by default, try to provide DNS if it is supplying DHCP.
Or, am I looking at a Server that was once the router with RRAS configured and Natting over the server? If it was working as a router, I am with you on asking "why change a working configuration?"
Tell me if you think I am far off on this adventure. This thread implies that DHCP was once on the router, not the microsoft server. This can cause problems with DNS as the router will, by default, try to provide DNS if it is supplying DHCP.
Or, am I looking at a Server that was once the router with RRAS configured and Natting over the server? If it was working as a router, I am with you on asking "why change a working configuration?"
I have no idea/interest in what drove the decision to remove the ISA Server and - to be honest - that is not my call to make judgement upon anyway. That is between the asker and his consultant/support team.
But to get this scenario operational - for Monday morning I guess - I DO need to understand the config of the SBS server now.
Can we get a view from an ipconfig /all from the server please?
But to get this scenario operational - for Monday morning I guess - I DO need to understand the config of the SBS server now.
Can we get a view from an ipconfig /all from the server please?
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@keith_alabaster - that's true.. however, as great of a gift ISA is to the Microsoft World, it does have it's flaws and does require more resources spent on it than most. If anyone new to ISA was to Google ISA Server, they would probably assume the same, with the many many sites touting the problems rather than praising the positives. Many new appliances are much more self-sufficient than ISA Server is. This client told me that after going through many of the more popular, larger corporate IT support firms in Southern California, that very few of them refused to support it. That's not good!
Of course I do understand the up-sides of ISA, however, for many I talk to (with or without certifications to back up their opinions), the problems, in most instances, outweight the good. Its not for everyone. Since the uninstall, internet has been faster, there have been no dropped connections, and still have the features from ISA carried over.
This not a debate on why ISA is great and frankly, I'm done even hearing about it. I dont regret it one bit and am extremely excited to move on from it. I personally love Audi's and own two of them. I believe that the Quattro system is incredible and has superior performance. Many would disagree since Audi's are known for lower reliability, so I don't push my beliefs on others. I know that I enjoy them and that's good for me.
Going back to the problem - everything worked after replacing a failed switch and deleting and recreating a whole new scope in DHCP.
Of course I do understand the up-sides of ISA, however, for many I talk to (with or without certifications to back up their opinions), the problems, in most instances, outweight the good. Its not for everyone. Since the uninstall, internet has been faster, there have been no dropped connections, and still have the features from ISA carried over.
This not a debate on why ISA is great and frankly, I'm done even hearing about it. I dont regret it one bit and am extremely excited to move on from it. I personally love Audi's and own two of them. I believe that the Quattro system is incredible and has superior performance. Many would disagree since Audi's are known for lower reliability, so I don't push my beliefs on others. I know that I enjoy them and that's good for me.
Going back to the problem - everything worked after replacing a failed switch and deleting and recreating a whole new scope in DHCP.
lol - point taken. Although this IS the ISA & Forefront Zone area of EE - so we can talk ISA and FTMG for days here. :)