POST Card

I'm working on a shuttle XPC SX38P200. The computer turns on but there are no beeps. Lights display on motherboard. I disconnected everything from the motherboard except for power, still no beeps. The computer starts, all the fans run and then it turns itself off. Turns itself back on and runs a bit then turns itself off.  I was researching POST (power on self test) cards but I cannot seem to find one that will fit this motherboard. It has a PCI-express x16 slot.

Can any one help me find an affordable post card? Do you have other test tool suggestions?
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nobusConnect With a Mentor Commented:
but if you want one, look here :  http://www.uxd.com/hardware-diagnostics.shtml
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rbudjAuthor Commented:
Oh, btw, I tested the power supply already with a multimeter and it is working correctly
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rbudjAuthor Commented:
I should also mention that further testing .... turn the pc on in 2 seconds in turns off, turns itself back on and runs for an undetermined amount of time. So far a couple of hours.
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cabstechservicesCommented:
You can always try a POST card that connects to your parallel port (http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-Analyzer-Motherboard-Diagnostic-POST-Test-Card-6-BIT-/140357249267?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20adf1a8f3).  Also check that the board isn't shorting itself out - look on the bottom to make sure that nothing is bent over and making contact with something else.
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nobusCommented:
here my guide, it may help :
http://www.experts-exchange.com/articles/Hardware/Components/Motherboards/Short-overview-of-how-to-troubleshoot-bad-hardware-when-a-pc-does-not-post.htm

i never used any post cards  - my guide will quickly point out what can be wrong !
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rbudjAuthor Commented:
cabstech... this computer does not have a parallel port.
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rbudjAuthor Commented:
nobus...looked at your post, which is the way I currently test hardware except that I do not always have spare parts to use for testing. I need a real, professional soltion and it sounds like a POST card is what I need.
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nobusCommented:
apparently you did NOT look at the page - it lists several postcards - even pcie and mini pcie..
sometimes i wonder why i still post links...
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davy999Commented:
I had simialar problem the other day, he could'nt get his pc to work it was a self build

just would not beep, the problem was in my case next to the fan was a p8 i think  connector to the mother-

board plugged that in everything was ok

so check all connections
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rbudjAuthor Commented:
nobus, can you tell me where you see the pci express x16? I dont see it.
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nobusConnect With a Mentor Commented:
4th from top :
P.H.D. MiniPCIe ™
P.H.D. Mini PCI Express is an advanced diagnostics board that can be used by service technicians, system integrators & developers to perform sophisticated diagnostic testing on Mini PCI Express bus systems with Intel compatible processors
it does not have to be x16...
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rbudjAuthor Commented:
thanks nobus. I'm taking a closer look. So am I correct in assuming that the mini pci express will work with any size pci express?
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nobusConnect With a Mentor Commented:
the pcie-x16 slot is compatible with lower speeds, eg pcie-8, or pcie-4, but not in the other direction
more details here :  http://www.uxd.com/phd-minipciexpress.shtml     (i selected details)

since they do not explicitly say that it is compatible with all - best contact them  by phone
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rbudjAuthor Commented:
I did not like the way that company conducts business but I WAS able to find a pci-e elseware. Ebay I think. After knowing a little more about the cards though I would like to find a USB one. I will continue my search for it. Thanks for the info.
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nobusCommented:
an usb postcard?  i don't know if that exists (you have to load usb drivers before that thing starts working..)
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rbudjAuthor Commented:
Thats what I was thinking until I seen on a website where someone was recommending usb as the way to go. I found one here: http://www.pc-adapter.net/products/498.html but it looks like it only works with certain IBM machines. I'll keep researching.
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rbudjAuthor Commented:
actually, my link is to a battery tester little did I know. Also the links you provided are usb but that is to only supply power to the card if testing throught the LPT port.
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