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Creating rope as a brush - Illustrator

I am trying to play around in Illustrator to create some rope then say apply it to a brush for I can put that brush on a path.

I am having some trouble creating that, any ideas or anyone here create a rope texture? Looking here for inspiration: http://www.istockphoto.com/search/text/rope/filetypes/%5B7%5D/source/basic/#5a59c62

Would i first create one segment then make a brush?
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catonthecouchproductions
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Sigurdur ArmannssonDesignerCommented:
Check these out: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?event=extensionDetail&loc=en_us&extid=1045700

If you open them you can probably see how it's done.
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catonthecouchproductionsAuthor Commented:
I was able to make a simple rope shape, I am having trouble, when i draw my path my pattern shows up bigger than the original, Id like it to remain the same size. I have attached an image of the path that has the rope applied to and also the original which is the smallest one at 100%. My options are also attached.


Screen-shot-2011-02-20-at-4.57.4.png
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catonthecouchproductionsAuthor Commented:
Brush with path
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Sigurdur ArmannssonDesignerCommented:
When you apply a brush to a stroke you control the size in the Stroke panel. The thickness of the stroke. The size of the original drawing is not that vital.
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catonthecouchproductionsAuthor Commented:
I have it at 1px stroke and still is MUCH bigger than the original vector I made
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Sigurdur ArmannssonDesignerCommented:
Try this:

Select your basic image.

Create a new brush. Select Pattern brush.

Set width to 50% for this trial.

Draw a stroke and apply the brush. (make sure there is no fill on the path).

Adjust the thickness in the stroke panel. You can go lower than 1pt.

Note: You should not be using "adjust to pixel grid" as it will restrict you to using only whole pixels.
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catonthecouchproductionsAuthor Commented:
Bingo, much much better! Now check it out. I have a weird space and can't get it flush, but the spacing is 0.

Thoughts?

Ryan

 brush and settings
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Sigurdur ArmannssonDesignerCommented:
It looks like the pattern is broken. That is, if you look at the left end, there is white space above the end of that thread and on the right end you go white space below. You need to chop the drawing that way the left end would have part of the right end.

I know this may sound confusing, but here is what you do.

Your original pattern:

Select the eraser tool. Hold down the Alt key and drag/draw a box from left to the lower right corner of the leftmost "rope unit". This will cut away a portion of that section.

Do the same, now drag drawing from right to the lower right corner of the rightmost "rope-unit". when you watch this you see that if you moved the leftmost part over to right and joined it to the rightmost link it would make one whole.

Now make a new Pattern brush and try it out.
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catonthecouchproductionsAuthor Commented:
Ill give it a try! Will let you know how I make out
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catonthecouchproductionsAuthor Commented:

hey,

ya that is a bit confusing. So I start from the:

Left and drag to the lower right corner of the left rope unit?
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Sigurdur ArmannssonDesignerCommented:
Here is a drawing that explains visually what I was trying to say in words.

It shows how on each end of the rope a half rope-link is missing and how to cure it.

Hope it helps some.
Rope.jpg
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catonthecouchproductionsAuthor Commented:
Ah I see what you meant. That helped alot thank you.

One last thing then I can wrap this up! I have it at the thickness I want it to be when I apply the stroke. But it wants to thicken or stretch it. Any idea?

I have been playing with the settings for that brush but it doesn't fix that issue. Id like to have a smaller stoke to resemble real rope, then I can style from there (add texture, etc.)

Thank you
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Sigurdur ArmannssonDesignerCommented:
I think Pattern brush is what you need.

Drag your art to the Brush panel and choose Pattern brush. You only need to accept it like it appears, that is, only filling the first section.

Keep the behavior to Fixed and other settings just as they come. You tweak the thickness in the Stroke panel and the pattern brush is supposed to repeat itself along the path.
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Sigurdur ArmannssonDesignerCommented:
aww... should do: Fit: Approximate Path. I think that is what you are looking for.
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catonthecouchproductionsAuthor Commented:
Thanks going to try this out.

Appreciate all your help.
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catonthecouchproductionsAuthor Commented:
Worked great! Thanks again
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