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I just iinstalled my first first virtual server on oracle virtual box (the free version). My question is, is there a way for me to keep this server up & running without keeping it minimized all the time? This is a production server & I need it up at all times. Thanks
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With a desktop product like Virtual Box, you either keep it open or minimize it.

Citrix Xen, VMware ESXi, Microsoft Hyper-V would be a better choice, of VMware Server 2.0.
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Never used VirtualBox so cannot comment on it.  I just wanted to make sure you are properly supported since you mention it is a production server.

Is Oracle supporting production databases on VirtualBox?

I know there 's a specific note for VMWare on their support policy:
Support Position for Oracle Products Running on VMWare Virtualized Environments ID 249212.1

I've never heard they are supporting any VM.

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Here is the thread from their actual forums on the topic:

http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4762
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Okay, I'm convinced not to use Virtual Box...I thought about using Microsoft Virtual Server 2005 but I don't think that will run on a Win 2008 server....I'm getting ready to download VMWARE Server 2. I noticed under this download it has VIX API 1.6 for Windows. It has no description...do I need this?

I did mention this is a production server but it will not be a DC or file server, it is just a server reports are going to be generated on...very little load at all times. It will also be running WAMP.

Is VMWARE Server 2 stil what you think I need? Virtual box would have worked finie for me if I could have set the VM to run in the background & to start automatically if the server is rebooted. I do not have hyper-v on this Win 2008 server. It is a Windows 2008 SP2 server. I checked the admin tools & hyper-v is not there. Can I download it or activate it somehow?
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Did you not see above where you can do exactly that with virtualbox?

http://sourceforge.net/projects/vboxvmservice/files/vboxvmservice/Versions%202.x/2.2%20-%20Fireworks/
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I STRONGLY encourage you to NOT run a production Oracle database on a virtual machine.

You will regret it someday at 3AM when the database is down and Oracle tells you: Call us back when you reproduce the problem on a physical server.

If you can be down for a couple days, have at it.
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I don't think he is running Oracle DB since he mentioned WAMP (i think it dropped into oracle DB because of the oracle in the virtualbx title) and very light use so I think he was using "production" to mean something a bit different than what we consider.  

Side note:  That sounds like really cruddy support  :(
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I wouldn't use VMWare server either, as that hasn't been updated for very long. I think it is being discontinued.

As has been mentioned earlier you should use a proper Hypervisor like ESXi or Hyper-V.

ESXi is free too, and it runs without having to install a separate hosting OS for it, as it comes with a very small own OS which hardly uses any resources.

Or you can use Hyper-V which is included with windows 2008.

For both of these your CPU must have built-in virtualization (On Intel CPU's I think it is VT).

Only if your CPU doesn't have built-in virtualization capabilities you'd have to use another product.
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jason987,
I've have looked at your link for installing & configuring virtual box but still have not seen where I can make an adjustment to make virtual box run in the background without having it opened & minimized. Can you be more specific as to which link inside the link you gave? Thanks
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