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Hyper V as stand-alone or as role

Hi everyone,

I have been looking for another solution to virtualize my servers besides esxi..
I have come up with Hyper-V, but I see you have different ways to use this:

You have the "Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2008 R2" which is the equivalent of "Esxi 4.0" (Free)
And Server 2008 R2 Core with a Hyper-V Role Only. So you install a Server 2008 with Hyper-V as a role..

Is there a difference in performance? Which of the 2 should I use?
What is the comparison with Vmware's ESXI? Mostly in cost?
I will be using a Small Business 2011 as domain controller.
Already thanks in advance!

Kind regards,

Sven
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Felix LevenCommented:
No difference, the standalone is kind of a "try it" version. Performance is the same.

Prize is almost the same between hyper-v and esxi IF you are using not more then three servers.
1. you can use both wihout management at no cost
2. you can buy vmare essential (plus) for a very low prize but without some features of the premium versions
3. system center essential is the small business management i would recommend for hyper-v. you don't need it but it gives you some nice tools
4 bigger setups with 3+ host servers will get very expensive with vmware, but they are still the experts for bigger virtualization projects

Only one small business server? i don't know if its support in hyper-v, but that's not much to start with hyper-v ...

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Silencer001Author Commented:
Not only 1 sbs-server, but the main server ;-) I have read that if you use the Hyper-V as a role, you should buy your licence for the OS running the Hyper-V, but you get 1 free license for windows 2008 server. Since we use SBS2011, I have no need for a license for win 2008.. Or maybe a file-server or application server..

So you would buy the OS with hyper-v as a role to manage the vm's?
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Felix LevenCommented:
ok, i understand. but the question remains "why no hyper-v role in sbs?" not supported?

go for the "stand alone" version
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Felix LevenCommented:
Looks intersting, it's about sbs2008 but same with 2011

http://blogs.technet.com/b/sbs/archive/2008/09/15/sbs-2008-and-virtualization.aspx
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Silencer001Author Commented:
Thanks for the link, looks interesting! I will look at it first thing tomorrow.
But what I can make up from this is that hyper-V enables you to run sbs2008 virtualy. The primary server is the one with Hyper-V and you can make a new virtual host which runs hyper-V also?
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Felix LevenCommented:
NO. Hyper-v on the parent (primary server) host ONLY
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Silencer001Author Commented:
But if you look at scenario 2, you can install SBS 2008 as the parent server and on that parent server you can install another instance of SBS (virtually)
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Felix LevenCommented:
F.  VIRTUALIZATION
Installing SBS 2011 as a guest inside a HyperV server parent is fully supported.  Installing the HyperV role ON SBS 2011 is not.  With the premium add on you can take the Windows Server 2008 R2 standard media and install it as a base for the HyperV role.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/small-business-server-2011-standard-build-document-i-overview-of-sbs-2011.aspx

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Silencer001Author Commented:
Ok, sorry for the misinterpretation and thanks for your help!

So you would use 2008 server with hyper-V role as a base to deploy SBS-server if you are going to use the licence of 2008 server on another virtual machine? Otherwise just use Hyper-V sever 2008 (free) and deploy SBS-server on this one?
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Felix LevenCommented:
Yes, your problem is that sbs isn't allowed to install hyper-v. if you buy a 2008 r2 to license you can install a parent host for free and install your paid license inside of it as a child partition.
Install the standalone version and try out hyper-v. If you like it and want to go on wth virtualization on microsoft you can redesign your environment and your license.

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Silencer001Author Commented:
Ok thanks, but now we are using vmware and we wanted to switch to a cheaper environment and thought that hyper-V would be cheaper.. So basically we just wanted to switch to hyper-V to make it cheaper for the customer. I have already worked with Hyper-V (Win2008 R2 with hyper-V for testing) and I really liked it. I have no experience with ESXI or anything..
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Silencer001Author Commented:
I thank you for your replies and will reward points for your input! Thanks
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Silencer001Author Commented:
Thanks for your input!
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