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Shrink Allocated VMDK space- Vsphere 4- ESX 4.0 -VM's running 64 bit Linux OS - LVM Volumes- Thick Disks

Hi, most of the answers I've seen to my question involve thin disks and running vmkfs-tools to zero out space and then convert to thin disks while migrating.  This won't work for me.  I need to actually shrink the allocated size of the vmdk and keep the disks as thick disks.   We have a number of Redhat Linux 64 bit VM's that were overallocated as thick disks.  They are running LVM2 on Fiber Channel Datastores (san). Our Virtual environment runs on  ESX 4.0 and Vsphere 4.0.  
Things I've tried.  
1.VMWare Convertor via vmotion datastore migration. Results Convertor doesn't give the option to change the disks size, it only sees them as 2MB disks. (Maybe because of LVM?)  
2. Platespin -Doesn't work as they are 64 BIT linux servers and PlateSpin lacks driver support.
I'm not a linux guru, so if anyone has step by step on how to reduce the size of the VMDK's by shrinking the "hard disk" in Linux, it would be helpful.
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coolsport00Commented:
Did you try vCenter Converter Standalone tool? Actual VMDKs are small in size because they are just 'pointers'; the flat-vmdk files are the actual 'data' files.
http://downloads.vmware.com/d/info/datacenter_downloads/vmware_vcenter_converter_standalone/4_0

Hope that helps.

~coolsport00
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JRoyseCommented:
There are probably better ways to do this than I am going to mention.. but I have done this for home and it works.

Try this out on a Junk VM as a test so you get the hang of it.  If you haven't use "dd" before it is really powerful.

1. Turn off the VM
2. Add a new disk to the VM the size (Thick or Thin) you want as a DESTINATION
3. boot VM off of a PartedMagic live Linux CD ISO image that you downloaded
4. use Gparted to shink all the partitions on the SOURCE disk
5. REBOOT back into Gparted
6. use the dd command to CLONE the drives dd if=/dev/SOURCE of=/dev/DESTINATION drive
7. shutdown VM
8. remove, but don't delete the SOURCE disk fom the VM
9. unconfigure booting from the partedmagic ISO
10. Start using the DESTINATION disk and boot the VM normall
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twtechAuthor Commented:
Hi, we did try vmware convertor standalone tool.  It sees the disk as a 2mb disk and doesn't give the option to resize which is also what happens with vcenter convertor enterprise.  I think is this due to LVM2 in the vm OS.  Also, we tried gparted but it is not able to manipulate the partitions due to the LVM disks in the Linux OS unfortunately.
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youngstr11Commented:
Check out gparted. download the iso below then copy it to one of your vm partitions and boot to it. I would clone the machine first and test then follow the same steps. I have used it to expand a vm drive but have not tried to shrink yet. I was told that once you shrink your windows partition you can then just modify the vm disk and it will remove the unpartitioned space.

http://download.cnet.com/GParted-LiveCD/3000-2094_4-10698802.html
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youngstr11Commented:
Sorry when I wrote windows I misspoke this should work for both windows and Linux
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twtechAuthor Commented:
Hi youngstr11, As stated in my previous reply, we have already tried gparted.  It isn't able to manipulate the Disk because of LVM2 being installed/used in Linux.  Note that I also tried using Partimage and Clonezilla with no joy.  I have to be able to shrink this using LVM2 first and then clone to a smaller vmdk somehow.  Looking for the steps to safely shrink the LVM volumes and disk and copy to a smaller vmdk if possible..
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JRoyseCommented:
Ok, we missed a step.

In the RedHat OS, you need to shrink the lvm volumes before Gparted can manipulate the partitions.  Use the lvm tools.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-enterprise-47/shrink-lvm-without-dataloss-557746/
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JRoyseCommented:
In the future you can also stick with separate VMFS disks for Data/OS to keep it simple.
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dblake15Commented:
Can't you use storage migration to change the size?  If you have it.
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twtechAuthor Commented:
Figured this out on our own.  .  One has to use LVM to shrink the disks and move data to a smaller vmdk.  Once the data is moved and the vmdk is shrunk the disk can be detached. Here is a blog that one of our employees wrote on this process. http://ravi-vmware.blogspot.com/2011/03/shrinking-vmware-virtual-disks-with.html
Groyse was on the right track so awarding partial points.  Gparted can't be used with LVM Disks so it has to be done within the LVM Tools entirely.
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twtechAuthor Commented:
Jroyce's solution was accurate regarding LVM's, but we had tried that already and gparted did not work. His suggesion to use LVM was partially correct. But steps were missing for Vmware environment.
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