Buying New Server -- What Software Can I Reuse?
Hi Experts!
So my organization is buying a new server--new territory for me (Dell Power Edge T110 Tower Server to replace SBS 2003 server). We're a non-profit, so we can get software cheaper, including SBS 2008, so we're buying it all separately. But I can't figure out what software we need to rebuy, and what I can reuse?
But we currently have SBS 2003, Microsoft Exchange, Symantec Endpoint Protection 11 and Backup Exec 11d, Simply Accounting 2009, SQL Server 2005.
I'm assuming we need the new OS (SBS 2008 Standard and not Enterprise?) with new user CALs, new SQL Server, looking like Exchange needs to be purchased separately (not including in SBS 2008?). But I assume that I can reuse Endpoint Protection, Backup Exec, and Simply Accounting, with no new licenses needed? Or is that wishful thinking?
Thanks for your help!
So my organization is buying a new server--new territory for me (Dell Power Edge T110 Tower Server to replace SBS 2003 server). We're a non-profit, so we can get software cheaper, including SBS 2008, so we're buying it all separately. But I can't figure out what software we need to rebuy, and what I can reuse?
But we currently have SBS 2003, Microsoft Exchange, Symantec Endpoint Protection 11 and Backup Exec 11d, Simply Accounting 2009, SQL Server 2005.
I'm assuming we need the new OS (SBS 2008 Standard and not Enterprise?) with new user CALs, new SQL Server, looking like Exchange needs to be purchased separately (not including in SBS 2008?). But I assume that I can reuse Endpoint Protection, Backup Exec, and Simply Accounting, with no new licenses needed? Or is that wishful thinking?
Thanks for your help!
Aaron Tomosky
Why do you use SBS if you also have exchange on the same box?
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Hi Aarontomosky,
Um, we're a small office of 10 workstations. I don't know if that Exchange is a part of SBS 2003, or if it was installed separately...?
But you're right, rereading it, it appears that SBS 2008 Standard Edition includes Exchange Server 2007, and that the SBS 2008 CALs " can also be used to access instances of Exchange Server 2007, SQL Server 2008, or any other Windows servers within the Windows Small Business Server 2008 domain".
Um, we're a small office of 10 workstations. I don't know if that Exchange is a part of SBS 2003, or if it was installed separately...?
But you're right, rereading it, it appears that SBS 2008 Standard Edition includes Exchange Server 2007, and that the SBS 2008 CALs " can also be used to access instances of Exchange Server 2007, SQL Server 2008, or any other Windows servers within the Windows Small Business Server 2008 domain".
SBS 2k8 includes exchange. So you would not need to purchase it seperately. You should not need to purchase new licenses unless you plan on not *replacing* the old server. You will need to check to make sure that all versions of software you listed above are compatible with sbs 2k8. I believe they are but you should double check.
You will need to purchase SBS 2k8 license along with User cals.
You will need to purchase SBS 2k8 license along with User cals.
You know SBS2011 is out. I would use it for sure.
SBS has Exchange built in.
2008 SBS Premium also come with SQL server but I'm not sure about 2011 SBS.
Backup Exec is a pain anyway so I would buy the latest SBS version of it. The SBS version is a much better deal and will backup Exchange without any add ons.
I use NOD32 for anti-virus and don't know anything about Simply Accounting. I would check their website about compatibility. Just remember with compatibility 2008 server is Vista server and 2008R2 or SBS2011 is Windows 7 server.
SBS has Exchange built in.
2008 SBS Premium also come with SQL server but I'm not sure about 2011 SBS.
Backup Exec is a pain anyway so I would buy the latest SBS version of it. The SBS version is a much better deal and will backup Exchange without any add ons.
I use NOD32 for anti-virus and don't know anything about Simply Accounting. I would check their website about compatibility. Just remember with compatibility 2008 server is Vista server and 2008R2 or SBS2011 is Windows 7 server.
SBS 2008 does include Exchange, so don't think you need to re purchase that unless you want Exchange on a different physical server?
Endpoint is licenced per computer protected so you should have no problems reinstalling as long as you still have an active subscription.
However Backup Exec 11d does not support SBS 2008 (or any 2008 server)
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH49520
Simply Accounting I have not dealt with but as long as its not an OEM licence you should be fine.
Endpoint is licenced per computer protected so you should have no problems reinstalling as long as you still have an active subscription.
However Backup Exec 11d does not support SBS 2008 (or any 2008 server)
http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=TECH49520
Simply Accounting I have not dealt with but as long as its not an OEM licence you should be fine.
assuming you are not on any type of software assurance agreement with microsoft, then you can reuse anything you want so long as it stays the same version.
for instance, you could install your copy of 2003 sbs on the new server, so long as the old server is no longer in use. (but i would not recommend that, since your new server will run better with the newer version) also note the current SBS version is 2011.
SBS 2011 includes:
Backup software, so you would not need Backup Exec unless you like its features better.
Antivirus software, so you would not need Endpoint Protection unless you like its features better.
Exchange, no need to purchase this separately unless you need some feature from the full version not supported by the SBS version.
that leaves SQL 2005, which you would want to use if you have SQL stored databases. Otherwise i believe that Exchange will install whatever version of SQL that it requires to run. (that license is either a runtime version or included with SBS)
so of your original software, only Simply Accounting would "need" to be reinstalled. the rest is most likely included in the new SBS version.
As far as the CALs, you may be able to reuse your old CALs or upgrade them, you would have to contact your current license holder to determine if they are valid for the new version. (your vendor that sold you the licenses should be able to tell you)
for instance, you could install your copy of 2003 sbs on the new server, so long as the old server is no longer in use. (but i would not recommend that, since your new server will run better with the newer version) also note the current SBS version is 2011.
SBS 2011 includes:
Backup software, so you would not need Backup Exec unless you like its features better.
Antivirus software, so you would not need Endpoint Protection unless you like its features better.
Exchange, no need to purchase this separately unless you need some feature from the full version not supported by the SBS version.
that leaves SQL 2005, which you would want to use if you have SQL stored databases. Otherwise i believe that Exchange will install whatever version of SQL that it requires to run. (that license is either a runtime version or included with SBS)
so of your original software, only Simply Accounting would "need" to be reinstalled. the rest is most likely included in the new SBS version.
As far as the CALs, you may be able to reuse your old CALs or upgrade them, you would have to contact your current license holder to determine if they are valid for the new version. (your vendor that sold you the licenses should be able to tell you)
If you decide to go with SBS 2k11, just make sure what ever hardware you are installing it on is supported! For example, I recently purchased a T710 from Dell and they told me that SBS 2k11 was supported on that poweredge server....Well it turns out it is not supported yet and installing some of the Dell tools (open manage, etc) broke a few things since it is not supported quite yet.
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Get SBS 2011. SBS 2008 sucks! It's based on Visa code (server 2008) and a Exchange 2007 (which also sucks). SBS 2011 is based on Windows 7 code base (Server 2008 R2) and Exchange 2010 sp1, and comes with sharepoint 2010. If you install SBS 2008 you will have to get new hardware (you can but it's tricky, follow this guide migrate ), to migrate to SBS 2011, as you can't do an in-place upgrade from 2008.