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Calculate time constant of an exponential decay
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This is a simple question; however, while looking for the answer I have come across different answers.
I have some data which decays exponentially and would like to calculate the time constant of this decay.How can I do this?
I have come across the following which apparently is calculating the half life (not sure its relation to time constant) of of radioactive decay (which I think is exponential):
-t ln(N / No)
where No is the initial amount, N is the final amount and t is the time taken to go between the two amounts. This however gives me funny results that do not seem logical. For example, -100 ln(8/10) gives 22, however -100 ln(5/10) gives 69. A longer time constant for something that has decayed more in the same amount of time.
Many thanks,
James
This is a simple question; however, while looking for the answer I have come across different answers.
I have some data which decays exponentially and would like to calculate the time constant of this decay.How can I do this?
I have come across the following which apparently is calculating the half life (not sure its relation to time constant) of of radioactive decay (which I think is exponential):
-t ln(N / No)
where No is the initial amount, N is the final amount and t is the time taken to go between the two amounts. This however gives me funny results that do not seem logical. For example, -100 ln(8/10) gives 22, however -100 ln(5/10) gives 69. A longer time constant for something that has decayed more in the same amount of time.
Many thanks,
James
ASKER
Hmm ok, that might explain the complication when searching for answers. I would like to calculate the time constant (with natural base). How can I do this?
Cheers,
James
Cheers,
James
Time_Constant = Half_Life * ln(2) = (0.693)* Half_Life
There is a section on the Wikipedia page that does the derivation.
It is hidden, you have to hit Show to see it.
There is a section on the Wikipedia page that does the derivation.
It is hidden, you have to hit Show to see it.
ASKER
Ok, I do the sums and the same thing happens as in my original example. Things which logically should have longer time constants have smaller ones.
Can you go through calculating the time constant of, for example, a drop from 10 to 8 that takes 182 seconds.
Cheers,
James
Can you go through calculating the time constant of, for example, a drop from 10 to 8 that takes 182 seconds.
Cheers,
James
8 = 10*(1/(2^(182/HL))
Log10 of both sides
log(8) = Log(10) - (182/HL)*log(2)
log(10) - log(8)
182/HL = ------------------ = 0.3219
log(2)
182 s
Half-Life = ------- = 565.3 s
0.3219
ASKER
Thanks.
So all together?
time constant = ( t / ( (log(No)-log(N(t)) / log(2) ) ) * ln(2)
So all together?
time constant = ( t / ( (log(No)-log(N(t)) / log(2) ) ) * ln(2)
ASKER
This all seems way too complicated. Do I have to go through the half-life. Can't I just go straight to the time constant for the exponential decay?
Yes you can solve for Time Constant the same way:
8 = 10*(1/(e^(182/TC))
Ln of both sides
ln(8) = Ln(10) - (182/HL)*log(e)
182/TC = ln(10/8) = 0.2231
182 s
Time Constant = ------- = 815.5 s
0.2231
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Brilliant that looks good. Thanks very much.
Cheers,
James
Cheers,
James
You can use XL to check your thinking (and math) on these sort of problems.
I you know that 10 decays to 8 in 182 seconds, you can use the XL Solver to find the
decay rate per second.
I get 0.998775.
You can extend the spreadsheet to find the half-life (N=5) and the
Time Constant (N = 1/e = 3.679).
The values match my earlier calculations.
Exponential-Decay.pdf
I you know that 10 decays to 8 in 182 seconds, you can use the XL Solver to find the
decay rate per second.
I get 0.998775.
You can extend the spreadsheet to find the half-life (N=5) and the
Time Constant (N = 1/e = 3.679).
The values match my earlier calculations.
Exponential-Decay.pdf
Half-life is exponential with base 2.
If something has a half-life of 1 year, it has a time constant of (1 year)*ln(2) = 0.693 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-life